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Old 04-15-2008, 01:05 AM   #11
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Jerry, since you're in this field in some capacity, please, clarify things here.
Your company is working on a hydrogen powered vehicle that runs off of TANKED hydrogen, yes?
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Nope, currently it'* generated and not stored. Runs through 2 litres of distilled water every 80 hours, compared to the above site'* claim of 1 quart (~1 litre) for "months". The theoretical amount of hydrogen that would be generated would be far too minimal...

There are plenty of naysayers on the topic, that'* for sure. It was a fairly early-on internship so most of my knowledge is sporadic and based on only what I saw. One of the questions asked at a (higher up) job interview was literally: "Don't you think it'* kind of fishy that you're taking so much power from the alternator in order to do this?"

Based on my understanding without a full thermodynamics course under my belt, it has to do with increasing thermal efficiency (IC engines are what, 20% efficient?) - losing some electrical energy, yes, but a process that results in a net gain.
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OK, I just found the HyDrive demo, and that one does make sense.
It'* using a very small amount of hydrogen to act as an accelerant, to speed up the burn rate of the conventional fuel.
My big problem with the runyourcarwithwater thing is that the guy claims he can use it to run his car EXCLUSIVELY on water. That shows a fundamental misunderstanding of his own product that is extremely disturbing...
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Why a 56 day guarantee? Doesn't that seem arbitrary?
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That sounds about as smart as Ethanol
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That sounds about as smart as Ethanol
What'* wrong with ethanol? Biggest problems are manufacturing and distribution.. Major racing circuits are using it quite well...
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That sounds about as smart as Ethanol
What'* wrong with ethanol? Biggest problems are manufacturing and distribution.. Major racing circuits are using it quite well...
E85 requires more fuel for the same power, and puts out more harmful emissions. I think when people get over the current hysteria of getting off foreign oil, E85 is gonna start catching a lot of flak from environmentalists.
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That sounds about as smart as Ethanol
What'* wrong with ethanol? Biggest problems are manufacturing and distribution.. Major racing circuits are using it quite well...
E85 requires more fuel for the same power, and puts out more harmful emissions. I think when people get over the current hysteria of getting off foreign oil, E85 is gonna start catching a lot of flak from environmentalists.
Plus the fact the using your food source as a fuel source drives the price of everything up. We are already seeing third world countries throwing fits because corn is in such short supply. Not to mention the fact that it takes more fossil fuel to produce ethanol than it replaces. your burning $1 worth of petrol to make $.50 worth of ethanol. The enviromentalist have got everything screwed up with this. There is nothing wrong with fossil fuel as a power source, there is enough of it to go around for a long time to come.
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Frankly, the major problem with ALL bio-fuels is supply. There simply isn't enough crop too produce food AND fuel.
Bio-diesel recycled from waste grease is also not a full solution, as it will eventually grow to compete for supply with the various industrial processes that also use food waste. It'* a better idea, though, because we still have a major surplus of food waste, as industrial usage doesn't even begin to account for a fraction of food waste. Just look at your local landfill...but eventually fuel needs WILL catch up with the supply.
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