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Old 07-18-2005, 02:46 PM   #131
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Heh...ya, 'finiti G35 would be nice, or the Alty 3.5, or the "to die for" Audi S4 Quattro

I drove passed an Acura RL today....fantastic car..wow.

Its all about money

I dont think the General has a car to match up with the RL (well maybe the STS)
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Old 07-18-2005, 02:51 PM   #132
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It'* hard to match those cars...they are all really nice. The problem is as soon as you start looking at foriegn luxury cars the price jumps up a lot. I can afford smaller ones like the Infinity, but I like big luxury cars. I need to drive one and figure out if I still like the feel of it though...it has the Bonnie beat in a lot of areas. The Audi is waaaaaay out of my price range, but I would love one.
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So what are you getting? Do look at a Bonnie GXP, there a nice car road in one man was it nice!
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Old 07-18-2005, 03:04 PM   #134
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Chrysler vans have a rep for dropping trannys...my cousin had two of them in a row and lost the tranny of each within 100,000 miles. His present car (a Malibu I think) is going strong after many more miles than that so it isn't his driving.
my gradnfather, who worked his entier career at chrysler (worked in the model shop), told me last time we got together that he'll never buy another chrysler product again. his current town and country has been to the dealer 6 or 7 times now, and hasn't been fixed. problems with the electronics freaking out and acting on their own to the torque convertor not locking up, to the tranny not shifting right...

and it never gets fixed...

He'* a car lover - we got in a conversation one day, and counted up how many vehicles he'* owned, and if i'm not mistaken, this minivan is number 39...

anyhew, if there'* someone with a bias, it was him... for chrysler - but he won't even touch them now. he said as soon as he gets near the end of his warranty, he'* completely out of the market for chrysler products...
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I didn't like the GXP. I drove one last year and found it underpowered for a V8, and I wasn't fond of the front end. I did like the lack of cladding and the sweet exhaust though. Nope...unless they improve the GXP, my next car (after the 2003 SSEi, assuming I don't find something better) will have to be something else.
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*sigh* owners bias I suppose, people will inherently support what they buy, however if you compare both manufacturers side to side, I be mechanical issues will lineup comparitively speaking.

I'll just keep driving my Oldsmobile for now
Not Chrysler tranny issues. I absolutely refuse to believe that



Cars WILL have their common problems - but I'd rather be at higher risk of say, a Toyota Sienna sludging up (only if I didn't change the oil with an anal maintainence schedule) than having a Caravan'* tranny take a ****. That said, there ARE many Chrysler van owners out there who swear by their vehicles - and haven't had transmission issues. I feel it'* along the lines of the L36 upper intake plenum deal - it doesn't happen to everybody, but there is a big risk. Risks that simply aren't there when comparing to other vehicles.
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OOO how sad try an SLE then? Just a thought...
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OOO how sad try an SLE then? Just a thought...
Sorry...can't part with my supercharger.
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Cars WILL have their common problems - but I'd rather be at higher risk of say, a Toyota Sienna sludging up (only if I didn't change the oil with an anal maintainence schedule) than having a Caravan'* tranny take a ***^. That said, there ARE many Chrysler van owners out there who swear by their vehicles - and haven't had transmission issues. I feel it'* along the lines of the L36 upper intake plenum deal - it doesn't happen to everybody, but there is a big risk. Risks that simply aren't there when comparing to other vehicles.
I agree. I would definitely do a lot of research before buying a vehicle and compare the risks. Transmission problems are not minor, and repaired trannies are never guaranteed to be as good as new, but with the research I did on other cars I was interested in, and the other costly common repairs those cars had, I found the Sebring was the smaller risk. Of course I plan on maintaining this car extremely well and I won't beat the tranny up. I saved a lot of money on this car, and I have a 100K mile warranty that covers virtually everything.

It is like the L36 UIM problem, not everyone has it, but if it does happen the effects could be deadly - one reason I will probably never own an L36, because I just wouldn't want to worry about that happening, and I would worry even if I maintained it well.
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Because I was gonna say with the employee pricing an SLE can be had for like 27k!
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