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Old 09-05-2007, 12:16 AM
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As stated in another topic, I don't have a PUMP receipt. Only a generic CC receipt. No octane or gallons/dollars shown.

Only the $20 generic CC reciept. I have no recourse. I'm on my own on this one. But they WILL hear from me.
Old 09-05-2007, 12:17 AM
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I would really like to see the station be held responsible for this. I mean come on, it clearly states "Premium Unleaded Fuel only" on the fuel door, if they didn't read/see that, they should be at fault for the engine damage.

EDIT - damn you responded before I clicked submit.
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I can't prove what octane is in the car, nor can I prove I didn't fill up SINCE then.

Let'* get off liability and get back to the root of the problem.

This is what happens when you run regular gas in a premium application on a PERFECTLY running motor with zero KR.


Go back to the previous page if you haven't seen the damage.
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Well its about ******* time that engine saw some real damage
sorry, had to. Last year at your house Bill, i asked you if you thought she would see 150,000 miles on that engine, you figured no, you figured correctly, mind you at 2000 miles a year...that would of taken a long time.
Nice work, too bad it may only be octane related.
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This is why I constantly monitor KR with my Aeroforce gauge.

It makes me so nervous when I'm in the states and can only get 91 or 92 instead of 94 octane that I always run here, I add octane booster to every fill up. Cheap insurance.
I'll have to stock up on octane booster before my next trip.

.....just a thought Bill. You didn't by any chance have your timing control turned up by accident, did you. :?
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No. Timing was in PCM default.

And Matt and Joel know how much KR I had with this setup. The ambient temps when it let go were only about 70.
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Why didn't your knock sensor detect and your PCM compensate by lowering timing (KR) :?:
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I held the scan tool, it read 0 no matter were the foot was...
KS counts were what id call normal, i remember my 93.
She ran great, faster than my modded S2, thats for sure lol
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This is VERY unfortunate. And a very good lesson for those who run less than premium in their supercharged engines.

Stupid gas station attendant.
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Originally Posted by 2000SilverBullet
Why didn't your knock sensor detect and your PCM compensate by lowering timing (KR) :?:
I'd be interested to see the PCM timing tables on the Jet chips. What sort of timing does the stage 2 command @ WOT normally?


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