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Old 05-15-2006, 05:39 PM   #21
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Those are European Export light configurations, and not the first we've seen of them.
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Lighting regulations were different in the US which entitled US cars to have different headlights, not the standard "square" or "round" sealed beam. European countires followed suit shortly after.
That doesn't sound right. Here in Europe we have been using different shaped headlamps years before they were allowed in the US, which was 1986 IIRC. This is obvious when you look at the US and European spec cars from the '60s and '70s.

Citroen SM (European spec):


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Mercedes 280SE (European spec):


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You get the idea. For that reason I doubt it is because the black SSE is Euro spec. I also think that if it was euro spec it would have a Euro-sized (elongated) licence plate recess. Were Bonnevilles actually sold in Europe through official dealers in the late 80s/early 90s? I know the Grand Prix and the Trans Sport were sold in Europe but I'm not sure about the Bonneville.
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The Bonneville was. And the early ones (at least through 88/89) had the seperate sealed beam headlamps. We have a car in Sweden that looks like this, as well as one in Norway.
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http://www.bonnevilleclub.com/forum/...ghlight=sweden
Check that topic. He'* a member from Sweden, and it'* an 89. We had another member from Sweden as well, although I can't remember his screen name off hand.

Just an example, this is an early 1987 Buick LeSabre. Notice the headlamps..
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As mentioned in another post, the license holder in front is too small for an European plate. notice how in that other thread mentioned above in this post, his license plate is longer, allowing it to fit correctly on the bumper. That first example in this thread does NOT have the enlongated bumper section to accomodate the wider license plate. I'll keep looking. I'm not trying to argue, I"m just trying to figure out why certain Bonnevilles have those quad lamps (which I have seen here in Michigan before) and why some have the ones we're used to seeing. I know the ones I've seen in Michigan weren't shipped here from overseas because everything else was perfectly "American" about them.
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Considering where that car is in that photo, I'd bet you saw one just LIKE it. That car is not in the us]

i saw this motor at a show in essex U.K if look at my sig you will see i am in the U.K


very tasty looking car
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Considering where that car is in that photo, I'd bet you saw one just LIKE it. That car is not in the us]

i saw this motor at a show in essex U.K if look at my sig you will see i am in the U.K


very tasty looking car
My apologies, BB, Your Avatar goofy dude threw me for a loop. 94SSEGold uses that same Avatar, and he'* in the deep south of the US. At first glance when I replied, I assumed it was him posting.
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Considering where that car is in that photo, I'd bet you saw one just LIKE it. That car is not in the us]

i saw this motor at a show in essex U.K if look at my sig you will see i am in the U.K


very tasty looking car
My apologies, BB, Your Avatar goofy dude threw me for a loop. 94SSEGold uses that same Avatar, and he'* in the deep south of the US. At first glance when I replied, I assumed it was him posting.
That'* ok we all make mistake'* ( changed avatar picture )
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