how fast have you gone in your bonny
04-26-2004, 10:00 PM
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i have only hit triple digits 3 times
fastest:
101
103
105
felt if it wanted to go more and the car didnt feel light in the front at all. It felt the same as going 65 down the road althought there was some more wind noise
fastest:
101
103
105
felt if it wanted to go more and the car didnt feel light in the front at all. It felt the same as going 65 down the road althought there was some more wind noise
04-27-2004, 09:29 AM
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108-109mph limited, 110 down a hill in my bonne
115 with some left in a 1994 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supream with a 3100 (got too quick for me in that car) if this car is supose to be limited earlier I dont know, its comp is a complete mess.
115 with some left in a 1994 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supream with a 3100 (got too quick for me in that car) if this car is supose to be limited earlier I dont know, its comp is a complete mess.
04-27-2004, 01:27 PM
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Last night coming back from a camp spot i was heading west down an old secondary. No vehicals at all, i floored it around 100 mph (160kph) then it hit 115mph (185)km/h it continued to 118mph (190kph) with my foot the floor it started to back itself off to 183-185 or so said the HUD. I have a video of this as well.
04-28-2004, 04:01 AM
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I doubt I'll ever get any proof of how fast I can go. No one I know would agree to ride with me to take a pic at that speed, and I sure as hell ain't taking my hands off the wheel. 
04-28-2004, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by 94 SSE with Sizzle
100 once, just to see the HUD change. It was cool 
Usually, a little over the speed limit. 
This coming from the man that always tells me I need to slow down. Now I see how you are. Practice what you preach Mr. Sizzle.
04-28-2004, 06:15 PM
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I think it is important to say that the BonnevilleClub does not encourage high speed driving or exceeding the posted speed limit in any way.
That being said...If you are inclined to speed excessively, you should know your car. In other words, you should know the following limitations of the car:
Suspension: Bill mentioned that an SE has softer suspention...namely the FE1 soft ride option. While this is true in most cases, there are exceptions to the rule. Some SE'* came with the F41 (earlier models) or the FE2 options--both were ride handling or sport packages which gave a stiffer ride and better cornering capabilities. Conversely, it is possible that some SSE'* came with the Soft ride suspention. Even if you have an SSEi, you should make sure you know what suspention you have. Check your RPO to see which of the following you have: FE1, FE2 or F41. Knowing what you have and what it means makes all the difference in the world when choosing to kill yourself on the open road.
Tire Rating: Not all tires are equal. There is a tire rating post floating around on this forum that has valuable information. Taking any tire past its rated capacity is dangerous and stupid. I saw late '80'* Camaro that had a catestrophic tire failure while doing a high speed drive-by on a freeway I was traveling. He lost control and went into the median. Although he was unhurt and his car suffered only minor damage, he could have taken out some other motorist and/or flipped his car. He was driving with R rated tires that were good for up to 85 mph. Even performance tires can get old and fail at high speeds. Know the ratings of your tires and make sure they are in very good condition before trying to remove a fellow motorist from the opposite lane.
Aerodynamics: I am not a pilot or an aerodynamics specialist in any way...however, I know the concept of lift and flight as I have several pilot friends and a pilot family member. A car is subject to the same forces that an aircraft wing uses for flight...that force is a vacuum caused by the airfoil traveling over the top of the wing. Pressure builds at the leading edge of the wing forcing the air either up and over or down and under. The bottom of the wing is relatively flat, where the top of the wing is curved with a tapering trailing edge. When the air is forced over the wing, it causes a low pressure area on the top surface of the wing, just past the leading edge. This low pressure pulls up on the wing causing lift. Air under the wing is at roughly the same pressure as the ambient air, so no down force is pulling the wing back down. Now lets look at our cars. we have the same flat bottom that a wing has, and the same low pressure causing areas over the middle of the hood, the roof, and behind the rear windshield. As we go faster, it is the low pressure caused by these areas that lift the car. If the front end lifts enough, then air begins to travel under the car just as Bill stated, causing the lift to be even worse. A front air dam will assist in creating down force on the front of the car, but at some point the lift caused by the low pressures on the top of the car will over come any downforce effect the air dam will have, and then you are in a pickle again. The SE does not have a sufficient airdam to counter act the lift crated by the roofline, so, the SE is not as adept to high speeds as the SSE or SSEi (For clerification I am using the 1992-1999 models as a comparison).
Road debris and surface condition: Road debris can cause a loss of traction, as can rough or broken surfaces. Road debris can be sand, debris form previous accidents, gravel, dead animals, or even the occasional live animal that decided the other side of the road looked greener. Deer are perhaps the worst road debris to encounter, but a good sized raccoon can have the same end result at triple digit speeds. Unfortunately, even a careful driver that scouts his course before the actual run cannot anticipate the meanderings of wildlife debris. Why do you think that the "Spirit of Bonneville" was run on the Bonneville Salt Flats? Certainly is is a great place to run a Bonneville at 204 MPH...afterall, our car is it'* namesake. But the real reason is because there are no cracks in the surface, there are no undulations in the surface, and there is no debris...inanimate, dead, or living and wondering...to get in the way.
Overall condition of your car: This is a no brainer. If you choose to thrash on your car, make sure it can handle the abuse you are about to hand to it. We don't want to hear complaints about your "piece of fecal matter" car that broke on you while you were running it up to the limit. If you choose to abuse, be ready to pay the price.
Safety: Safety should be our main concern...not only for ourselves, but for others as well. In Michigan, we have the Men in Blue to help make sure there is at least some ordinence of safety. I thank them for their presence...even when I get a ticket.
Having said that, I did an emergency run of 35 miles at 95 mph with my pregnant wife (didn't want blood and amniotic fluid on my leather seats), and once I dipped into the triples while passing an inconsiderate driver who though it was funny to match my speed (speeding up or slowing down) as I was along side him. It turned out that because of him I had to pass four cars on a two way highway. When I was getting around the fourth car I looked down and my speedo was reading 105. Clearly not on purpose, and even though the car was solid at that speed, It scared me that my car had gotten there so easily without me being aware. Had a police officer seen me, I would have had a ticket for sure....and deserved it.
Be careful out there.
Stick in the mud 95BonnevilleSESC signing off.
That being said...If you are inclined to speed excessively, you should know your car. In other words, you should know the following limitations of the car:
Suspension: Bill mentioned that an SE has softer suspention...namely the FE1 soft ride option. While this is true in most cases, there are exceptions to the rule. Some SE'* came with the F41 (earlier models) or the FE2 options--both were ride handling or sport packages which gave a stiffer ride and better cornering capabilities. Conversely, it is possible that some SSE'* came with the Soft ride suspention. Even if you have an SSEi, you should make sure you know what suspention you have. Check your RPO to see which of the following you have: FE1, FE2 or F41. Knowing what you have and what it means makes all the difference in the world when choosing to kill yourself on the open road.
Tire Rating: Not all tires are equal. There is a tire rating post floating around on this forum that has valuable information. Taking any tire past its rated capacity is dangerous and stupid. I saw late '80'* Camaro that had a catestrophic tire failure while doing a high speed drive-by on a freeway I was traveling. He lost control and went into the median. Although he was unhurt and his car suffered only minor damage, he could have taken out some other motorist and/or flipped his car. He was driving with R rated tires that were good for up to 85 mph. Even performance tires can get old and fail at high speeds. Know the ratings of your tires and make sure they are in very good condition before trying to remove a fellow motorist from the opposite lane.
Aerodynamics: I am not a pilot or an aerodynamics specialist in any way...however, I know the concept of lift and flight as I have several pilot friends and a pilot family member. A car is subject to the same forces that an aircraft wing uses for flight...that force is a vacuum caused by the airfoil traveling over the top of the wing. Pressure builds at the leading edge of the wing forcing the air either up and over or down and under. The bottom of the wing is relatively flat, where the top of the wing is curved with a tapering trailing edge. When the air is forced over the wing, it causes a low pressure area on the top surface of the wing, just past the leading edge. This low pressure pulls up on the wing causing lift. Air under the wing is at roughly the same pressure as the ambient air, so no down force is pulling the wing back down. Now lets look at our cars. we have the same flat bottom that a wing has, and the same low pressure causing areas over the middle of the hood, the roof, and behind the rear windshield. As we go faster, it is the low pressure caused by these areas that lift the car. If the front end lifts enough, then air begins to travel under the car just as Bill stated, causing the lift to be even worse. A front air dam will assist in creating down force on the front of the car, but at some point the lift caused by the low pressures on the top of the car will over come any downforce effect the air dam will have, and then you are in a pickle again. The SE does not have a sufficient airdam to counter act the lift crated by the roofline, so, the SE is not as adept to high speeds as the SSE or SSEi (For clerification I am using the 1992-1999 models as a comparison).
Road debris and surface condition: Road debris can cause a loss of traction, as can rough or broken surfaces. Road debris can be sand, debris form previous accidents, gravel, dead animals, or even the occasional live animal that decided the other side of the road looked greener. Deer are perhaps the worst road debris to encounter, but a good sized raccoon can have the same end result at triple digit speeds. Unfortunately, even a careful driver that scouts his course before the actual run cannot anticipate the meanderings of wildlife debris. Why do you think that the "Spirit of Bonneville" was run on the Bonneville Salt Flats? Certainly is is a great place to run a Bonneville at 204 MPH...afterall, our car is it'* namesake. But the real reason is because there are no cracks in the surface, there are no undulations in the surface, and there is no debris...inanimate, dead, or living and wondering...to get in the way.
Overall condition of your car: This is a no brainer. If you choose to thrash on your car, make sure it can handle the abuse you are about to hand to it. We don't want to hear complaints about your "piece of fecal matter" car that broke on you while you were running it up to the limit. If you choose to abuse, be ready to pay the price.
Safety: Safety should be our main concern...not only for ourselves, but for others as well. In Michigan, we have the Men in Blue to help make sure there is at least some ordinence of safety. I thank them for their presence...even when I get a ticket.
Having said that, I did an emergency run of 35 miles at 95 mph with my pregnant wife (didn't want blood and amniotic fluid on my leather seats), and once I dipped into the triples while passing an inconsiderate driver who though it was funny to match my speed (speeding up or slowing down) as I was along side him. It turned out that because of him I had to pass four cars on a two way highway. When I was getting around the fourth car I looked down and my speedo was reading 105. Clearly not on purpose, and even though the car was solid at that speed, It scared me that my car had gotten there so easily without me being aware. Had a police officer seen me, I would have had a ticket for sure....and deserved it.
Be careful out there.
Stick in the mud 95BonnevilleSESC signing off.
