Thanks for the info. I may have them done up here before the show though, as I get my exhaust work done for free and they are one of the best in the Spokane area and friends of the family for years. But you never know, he thinks he might have some similar he can get overnight when ready, but he is checking to see if they are the dbl walled ones. (Already have enough markings on the black paint from the heat from the stock tips... )