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Old Mar 2, 2024 | 10:14 AM
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Headlights won't turn off. There is a relay under the seat and one under the hood, both lighting relays that make a clicking sound with this issue. Car is turned off with key out and door opened, or closed doesn't matter, they stay on with relays clicking. If I turn on the parking lights headlights go off and relays don't click anymore. but then I have those on. I can't get the lights fully off.

I swapped relays and headlight switch as well as the turn signal stock assemble on the column. Nothing has fixed this issue. What am I be missing? Is there another relay somewhere? I've tried googling this and am not finding anything for this. Google does show that the 2000+ Century'* have a relay for the lights behind the dash that can fail leaving the lights on.

I also had to replace the clock spring because the horn would blow when turning the wheel.

Thanks for any help
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Old Mar 2, 2024 | 10:51 AM
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The DIM module may be having a problem but the first thing to do is to clean grounds.
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Old Mar 8, 2024 | 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by small batch
Headlights won't turn off. There is a relay under the seat and one under the hood, both lighting relays that make a clicking sound with this issue. Car is turned off with key out and door opened, or closed doesn't matter, they stay on with relays clicking. If I turn on the parking lights headlights go off and relays don't click anymore. but then I have those on. I can't get the lights fully off.

I swapped relays and headlight switch as well as the turn signal stock assemble on the column. Nothing has fixed this issue. What am I be missing? Is there another relay somewhere? I've tried googling this and am not finding anything for this. Google does show that the 2000+ Century'* have a relay for the lights behind the dash that can fail leaving the lights on.

I also had to replace the clock spring because the horn would blow when turning the wheel.

Thanks for any help
Do you have a 2000+ buick century or a 2002 buick lesabre? the stalk has NOTHING to do with headlamps being on (the high beams only) on a 2002 lesabre, so Im thinking you have a century?
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Old Mar 8, 2024 | 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by OldsManiac1990
Do you have a 2000+ buick century or a 2002 buick lesabre? the stalk has NOTHING to do with headlamps being on (the high beams only) on a 2002 lesabre, so Im thinking you have a century?
my car is a 2002 Lesabre Custom
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Old Mar 8, 2024 | 07:26 PM
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Just to be clear, my car is a 2002 Buick Lesabre Custom. I really appreciate any help with this issue. No onstar. Thanks
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Old Mar 8, 2024 | 07:30 PM
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No xm radio either
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Old Mar 8, 2024 | 08:14 PM
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Does removing the headlamp switch do anything to stop the issue?

The headlamps may be turned on in three different ways. First, when the headlamp switch is placed in the ON position, for normal operation. Second, With the twilight switch placed in the ON position, for Automatic Lamp Control (ALC). And third, with the twilight switch placed in the ON position, with the windshield wipers ON in daylight conditions, after a 6 second delay. During ALC control the headlamps will be in Day Time Running Lamp (DRL) operation in daylight conditions, or low beam operation in low light conditions. The Dash Integration Module (DIM) provides battery positive voltage to the signal circuits of the headlamp switch. The signal circuits include the headlamp on input, the flash-to-pass feature, and the high beam input.

With the headlamp switch in the ON position, a ground path is available for the headlamp switch signal circuit of the DIM through the headlamp switch. The DIM provides ground to either the relay control circuit of the low beam circuit or the high beam circuit. The position of the dimmer switch determines which relay control circuit has ground. The DIM supplies battery positive voltage to the relay control circuits, if the headlamps are necessary. The underhood fuse block supplies battery positive voltage to both relay switch circuits. When the low beam relay control circuit is energized, current flow is to both low beam fuses and to the low beam headlamps. The headlamps have ground at G103 and at G401. When the high beam relay control circuit is energized, current flow is to both high beam fuses and to the high beam headlamps. The high beam circuit is divided into a left and right side circuit. The current flow of the left high beam is from the fuse to the left high beam lamp. From the lamp, the current flows to the normally-closed contact of the Daytime Running Lamp (DRL) relay to G103. The current flow of the right high beam is from the fuse to the right high beam lamp. From the lamp, the current flow is to ground at G401 - When the headlamp dimmer switch lever is pulled toward the driver, the flash-to-pass switch closes. This grounds the DIM Flash-To-Pass input. In response to this input, the DIM energizes the high beam relay. Both high beams remain on until the driver releases the switch handle. If the low beam headlamps were on during a flash-to-pass operation, the low beams remain on. The headlights may be switched to high beam with the opposite movement of the dimmer switch lever.




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Originally Posted by small batch
Just to be clear, my car is a 2002 Buick Lesabre Custom. I really appreciate any help with this issue. No onstar. Thanks
Here'* the entire service manual.
https://charm.li/Buick/2002/LeSabre%...d%20Diagnosis/
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