removing factory PCM and installing intense PCM question
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From: Grand Rapids, Mi
Any idea as to what stage PCM, or custom programming it may have had? I have the standard Intense PCM, and while the shift points at WOT are higher, I can't say that they were a lot firmer. However, it likely has to go through the relearn so, things may settle down some as it learns your driving style. Other than that, it is hard to say, as there are many customized features that can be ordered.
Glad to hear that it'* up and running.
Glad to hear that it'* up and running.
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You may want to head over to Advance or Autozone and have them pull the code for your first...and we can go from there. When looking things over on PCM replacement, I remember it said that it would set a code (sorry - don't remember which one) if it didn't communicate properly with all of the modules.
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This is information on the code. It would explain the harsh shifts, as it sets maximum line pressure. The diagnostics shows two devices...the PCM and the Transmission. I'll assume that your tranny was working properly before the PCM swap, so that leaves just the PCM. It would appear as if the PCM is sending the wrong information to the TFP switches. Sounds like it'* time to put the original PCM back in. Why was the person selling the PCM? I'm wondering if it isn't defective. You could try sending a PM to Rogue to see if there may be programming differences between the two years, or problems with not having it matched to your vehicle.
Circuit Description with 4T65-E Automatic Transaxle
The automatic Transmission Fluid Pressure (TFP) manual valve position switch consists of six pressure switches (three normally-closed and three normally-open). Ignition voltage is applied to each of the switches. By grounding or opening one or more of these switches with fluid pressure from the manual valve, the PCM can detect which gear range is selected.
If the PCM detects an invalid combination of inputs (LOW/HI/LOW or LOW/LOW/LOW), then DTC P1810 sets. If the PCM detects a gear range other than the one indicated, then DTC P1810 sets. DTC P1810 is a type B DTC.
CONDITIONS FOR RUNNING THE DTC
* The engine speed is greater than 500 RPM for 5 seconds and not in fuel shut off.
* The system voltage is 9-18 volts .
CONDITIONS FOR SETTING THE DTC
DTC P1810 sets when at least one of the following conditions occurs:
Condition 1
The TFP manual valve position switch indicates an invalid switch combination for 60 seconds .
Condition 2
* No VSS DTC P0502 or P0503.
* The vehicle speed is less than 5 km/h (3 mph) .
* TFP manual valve position switch indicates REVERSE, D2 or D4 for 7 seconds at engine start up without indicating PARK or NEUTRAL.
Condition 3
* No TP sensor DTC P0121, P0122 or P0123.
* No VSS DTC P0502 or P0503.
* No AT ISS sensor DTC P0716 or P0717.
* No 1-2, 3-4 SS valve DTC P0751 or P0753.
* No 2-3 SS valve DTC P0756 or P0758.
* The TP angle is greater than 9% .
* The vehicle speed is more than 8 km/h (5 mph) .
* The engine torque is greater than 70 N.m (50 lb ft) and one of the following conditions occurs:
* The gear ratio indicates REVERSE, D4, D3,D2 or D1 and the TFP manual valve position switch indicates PARK or NEUTRAL for 5 seconds .
* The gear ratio indicates D4, D3, 02 or D1 and the TFP manual valve position switch indicates REVERSE for 7 seconds .
* The gear ratio indicates REVERSE and the TFP manual valve position switch indicates D4, D3, D2 or D1 for 5 seconds .
ACTION TAKEN WHEN THE DTC SETS
* The PCM illuminates the Malfunction Indicator Lamp (MIL) during the second consecutive trip in which the Conditions for Setting the DTC are met.
* The PCM commands maximum line pressure.
* The PCM freezes shift adapts.
* The PCM assumes D4 for shifting.
* The PCM records the operating conditions when the Conditions for Setting the DTC are met. The PCM stores this information as Freeze Frame and Failure Records.
* The PCM stores DTC P1810 in PCM history during the second consecutive trip in which the Conditions for Setting the DTC are met.
CONDITIONS FOR CLEARING THE MIL/DTC
* The PCM turns OFF the MIL during the third consecutive trip in which the diagnostic test runs and passes.
* A scan tool can clear the MIL/DTC.
* The PCM clears the DTC from the PCM history if the vehicle completes 40 consecutive warm-up cycles without an emission-related diagnostic fault occurring.
* The PCM cancels the DTC default actions when the fault no longer exists and the ignition switch is OFF long enough in order to power down the PCM.
DIAGNOSTIC AIDS
* Inspect the connectors at the controller, the component and all other circuit connecting points for an intermittent condition. Refer to Testing for Intermittent and Poor Connections in Diagrams.
* Inspect the circuit wiring for an intermittent condition. Refer to Testing for Electrical Intermittents in Diagrams.
* Ensure that the transmission linkage from the select lever to the manual valve is adjusted properly.
* If a transmission overhaul was performed, ensure that the transmission fluid is at the proper level. A low fluid condition may set this DTC.
* Inspect the TFP manual valve position switch seals for damage.
* Inspect the TFP manual valve position switch for debris, or loose rivets.
* Refer to the Transmission Fluid Pressure (TFP) Manual Valve Position Switch Logic table for the normal range signals and the invalid combinations.
The automatic Transmission Fluid Pressure (TFP) manual valve position switch consists of six pressure switches (three normally-closed and three normally-open). Ignition voltage is applied to each of the switches. By grounding or opening one or more of these switches with fluid pressure from the manual valve, the PCM can detect which gear range is selected.
If the PCM detects an invalid combination of inputs (LOW/HI/LOW or LOW/LOW/LOW), then DTC P1810 sets. If the PCM detects a gear range other than the one indicated, then DTC P1810 sets. DTC P1810 is a type B DTC.
CONDITIONS FOR RUNNING THE DTC
* The engine speed is greater than 500 RPM for 5 seconds and not in fuel shut off.
* The system voltage is 9-18 volts .
CONDITIONS FOR SETTING THE DTC
DTC P1810 sets when at least one of the following conditions occurs:
Condition 1
The TFP manual valve position switch indicates an invalid switch combination for 60 seconds .
Condition 2
* No VSS DTC P0502 or P0503.
* The vehicle speed is less than 5 km/h (3 mph) .
* TFP manual valve position switch indicates REVERSE, D2 or D4 for 7 seconds at engine start up without indicating PARK or NEUTRAL.
Condition 3
* No TP sensor DTC P0121, P0122 or P0123.
* No VSS DTC P0502 or P0503.
* No AT ISS sensor DTC P0716 or P0717.
* No 1-2, 3-4 SS valve DTC P0751 or P0753.
* No 2-3 SS valve DTC P0756 or P0758.
* The TP angle is greater than 9% .
* The vehicle speed is more than 8 km/h (5 mph) .
* The engine torque is greater than 70 N.m (50 lb ft) and one of the following conditions occurs:
* The gear ratio indicates REVERSE, D4, D3,D2 or D1 and the TFP manual valve position switch indicates PARK or NEUTRAL for 5 seconds .
* The gear ratio indicates D4, D3, 02 or D1 and the TFP manual valve position switch indicates REVERSE for 7 seconds .
* The gear ratio indicates REVERSE and the TFP manual valve position switch indicates D4, D3, D2 or D1 for 5 seconds .
ACTION TAKEN WHEN THE DTC SETS
* The PCM illuminates the Malfunction Indicator Lamp (MIL) during the second consecutive trip in which the Conditions for Setting the DTC are met.
* The PCM commands maximum line pressure.
* The PCM freezes shift adapts.
* The PCM assumes D4 for shifting.
* The PCM records the operating conditions when the Conditions for Setting the DTC are met. The PCM stores this information as Freeze Frame and Failure Records.
* The PCM stores DTC P1810 in PCM history during the second consecutive trip in which the Conditions for Setting the DTC are met.
CONDITIONS FOR CLEARING THE MIL/DTC
* The PCM turns OFF the MIL during the third consecutive trip in which the diagnostic test runs and passes.
* A scan tool can clear the MIL/DTC.
* The PCM clears the DTC from the PCM history if the vehicle completes 40 consecutive warm-up cycles without an emission-related diagnostic fault occurring.
* The PCM cancels the DTC default actions when the fault no longer exists and the ignition switch is OFF long enough in order to power down the PCM.
DIAGNOSTIC AIDS
* Inspect the connectors at the controller, the component and all other circuit connecting points for an intermittent condition. Refer to Testing for Intermittent and Poor Connections in Diagrams.
* Inspect the circuit wiring for an intermittent condition. Refer to Testing for Electrical Intermittents in Diagrams.
* Ensure that the transmission linkage from the select lever to the manual valve is adjusted properly.
* If a transmission overhaul was performed, ensure that the transmission fluid is at the proper level. A low fluid condition may set this DTC.
* Inspect the TFP manual valve position switch seals for damage.
* Inspect the TFP manual valve position switch for debris, or loose rivets.
* Refer to the Transmission Fluid Pressure (TFP) Manual Valve Position Switch Logic table for the normal range signals and the invalid combinations.
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From: Westerville, Ohio 2000 Black SSEi
What car did the PCM come from? If you have a name I can look up the code. If the gearing is different that can be very bad for your tranasaxle as the 730 code could set causing max line pressure.