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Old 03-30-2004, 06:30 PM   #11
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You struck my curiousity now... I was about ready to buy a DHP pcm for my 00 bonne untill you brought this post on... Do you have any idea of what will be different between the 2 pcm'*? what advantages and disadvantages?
The advantages of course will be lower price and i'm not sure of disadvantages (if any) at this point. I will keep you all updated as I begin my quest for the PCM.
Well, i did some research and here is what I found: The intense "Standard PCM" offers these changes...
"features speed limiter removal, slightly higher shift points** and rev limiter, transaxle line pressure adjustments**, air/fuel adjustments, ignition timing adjustments, knock retard decay rate adjustment, cooling fan control adjustments"

The DHP PCM offers these...
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- Speed limiter removed
- 3-1 and 4-2 skip shifts (Active in performance shift mode only*)
- Transmission line pressure increased (Active in performance shift mode only*)
- Shift points moved (5800-6000rpms) (Active in performance shift mode only*)
- Fan turn on points altered:
- 186 degree turn on
- 2 minute fan on at key-off (this feature activates when engine coolant is 179 degrees or greater)*Does not apply to 2000-2003 Monte SS
- MAF calibration adjusted for proper operation and year
- Digital Horsepower Inc. fuel/spark adjustments:
- En-richens fuel delivery for critical problem areas
- Provides a consistent power gain across the entire power band
- Reduces spark retard (knock retard)
- Removes "40MPH WOT lag"
- Dynamometer testing has shown up to 20 HP gain in 60 degree temperatures on a development vehicle. Click here to view the dyno results and detailed explanation.
*NOTE: Cars without the performance shift button will require a wiring harness modification for these shifting features to be enabled."

By the looks of this, the DHP offers quite a bit more like the skip shifts and etc. I may be missing some key factors and if so, please fill me in, but that is what I found with a quick research.
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I will be right behind you in this pcm rogue. Hopefully it works well with my new cam. Get on scott'* tale to finish the new toys up. Hopefully it will live up to the name, INTENSE.
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The race version has all torque managment removed but I'm kinda looking for a the TM to be there unless i turn off traction control. I guess we wait and see.
This is what I'm after too, the tc has to stay off when the tc is turned off. Also I hope the 3rd gear rev limit is removed
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Also I hope the 3rd gear rev limit is removed:
Yep, this is a given, i've already seen this done.
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I'm anxious to hear of these being used on a wider scale. It'* also encouraging to see some competition come to the PCM. Meanwhile there'* a fairly rabid discussion going on about this on ClubGP.

Would you happen to know Rogue if INTENSE has any plans on doing a 1997 SSEi version? Does DHP currently offer such a beast? Are you running the INTENSE PCM Rogue?

Cheers,
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I'm anxious to hear of these being used on a wider scale. It'* also encouraging to see some competition come to the PCM. Meanwhile there'* a fairly rabid discussion going on about this on ClubGP.

Would you happen to know Rogue if INTENSE has any plans on doing a 1997 SSEi version? Does DHP currently offer such a beast? Are you running the INTENSE PCM Rogue?

Cheers,
As far as I know, DHP currently does not offer an off the shelf PCM for < 00 (or > 00 for that matter). INTENSE will most likely not support < 00 and < SSEi unless market demand increases tremendously. I am not currently running an INTENSE PCM but am awaiting word any time that mine is ready. The Bonneville PCM is a bit more complicated and we have already messed with things like rev limiters, shift points, af tables etc...but I'm waiting on torque management stuff. My main goal is to get rid of the KR that we think the PCM is introducing (although the rest of the stuff will be nice as well).

I don't want to put words in INTENSE'* mouth though so i could be totally wrong on the year/model support but I'll let Scott give the actual word on it. You can always email him to ask questions as well.
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DHP does offer a PCM for our cars (2000+). I spoke directly with them and you can purchase them direct for the time being, considering they arent sold at any store yet. But the price is the same and from my previous post, that is what the pcm offers.
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I just received my DHP computer and installed it.

I was so excited I forgot about dinner and peeled off for a ride.

- Speed limiter removed
- 3-1 and 4-2 skip shifts - does not require performance shift mode !
- Transmission line pressure increased
- Shift points moved (6000rpms)
- Fan turn on points altered:
- 186 degree turn on
- 2 minute fan on at key-off (this feature activates when engine coolant is 179 degrees or greater) - didn't come on
- MAF calibration adjusted for proper operation and year
- Digital Horsepower Inc. fuel/spark adjustments:
- En-richens fuel delivery for critical problem areas
- Provides a consistent power gain across the entire power band
- Reduces spark retard (knock retard)
- Removes "40MPH WOT lag"
- Dynamometer testing has shown up to 20 HP gain in 60 degree temperatures on a development vehicle. Click here to view the dyno results and detailed explanation.
*NOTE: Cars without the performance shift button will require a wiring harness modification for these shifting features to be enabled." - does not apply for mine.


Significant improvement.
Yeeeeeeeeee....Haaaaaaaaa.
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Nice to hear silver.. Now tell me, what all did you have to do? I have been wondering since our cars dont have the performance button, did you have to modify the wiring harness to get the tranny adjustments to be active? Also, could you give some details of the improvements you noticed.. I am wanting to order mine in about 1-2 weeks
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Turn off the traction control and do a brake stand, have someone spot to make sure both tires are spinning (just ease off untill the other tire hooks up, then back on the pedal again).
Does the tc stay off or does the pcm jump in and retard the timming? This is important to me
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