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Old 03-13-2006, 10:15 AM   #11
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First thing I would check on the system is triple check all the vacuum lines. I have given myself a code by putting on the engine cover.

Your Evap purge soleniod is sitting on the alternator bracket that bolts to the back of the supercharger.

Here it is..right behind the alternator.
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And this shot with the motor out of the car. Top of pic..with two plastic vacuum lines going to it..right behind the alternator on the right.
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Archon and Bill,
I just wanted to check in and say thanks for the help on this again. I fixed this a few weeks ago, and the car hasn't had any of the problems since. Because of this, I forgot about the thread, when I should have checked in earlier. Thanks for the help.

Bill, thanks for the pics....worth 10,000 words.
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I fixed this a few weeks ago, and the car hasn't had any of the problems since.
What was the fix?
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Mark,
the fix was to replace about $65 worth of parts. It wasn't the most precise way to do it, but I figured- the stealership wanted $80 to run through it and find the problem, and they were denying that one of the parts was recalled.

In the 2003 bonneville, according to alldatadiy.com, the Fuel Pressure Sensor is sucseptible (sp?) to malfunction, and can damage the evap system possibly if not fixed. When I took it in for the FPS recall, my car VIN was 10,000 past the cutoff for the recall. They wouldn't replace it.

So, I thought about it, $80 for the search, and then they probably wouldn't replace the FPS. If the FPS was bad (it may have been fine, who knows?) then it would cause the problem all over again, and I'd be stuck paying again.

So, I took the shotgun approach, bought a EVAP Purge Valve, and an EVAP Solenoid, and a new FPS. The total cost was $65 approx. I put the Purge valve in in about 5 minutes (literally) and I'm not a car guy. The FPS took me about 20-30 minutes more, and could have been done faster if I knew what I was doing. The Evap Solenoid was the problem.

Apparently, there are two solenoids in the EVAP system, with different names and I don't remember which is which right now. There'* one under the hood, and one under the car tucked up behind the rear-driverside wheel well. I was reading on All Data to look under the hood, but had the wrong part. With the help of the people here and some looking, I found the right part under the car and replaced that. All the searching and everything probably took me, say 3 hours.

If I knew what I was doing I could have done all three parts in an hour I bet. Maybe 90 minutes. This includes checking the EVAP canister for fuel in it. I dropped mine and it had nothing in there.

I just figured I'd pay $80 diagnostic, chance not getting it fixed completely correctly, and then pay twice as much for the parts I bought, and then pay for the labor. GMPartsdirect.com hooked me up for $65 parts, and probably 90 minutes of my time, plust some learning time.
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Thanks for reporting back. It'* great to hear when things work out, and to hear what the problem was. In your case, you took care of your problem, as well as some potential problems, and saved money in the process. Sounds like a good deal to me.
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https://www.gmforum.com/pontiac-168/...-p1441-304396/

i started your own thread in the proper section for your car, we would rather you do that then post on a old thread.
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