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Old 03-29-2011, 11:26 AM   #11
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Hard to tell. everything in the video was blue.lol Video looked like regular exhaust to me. Whose car doesnt smoke on a 20 degree day?
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Old 03-29-2011, 01:23 PM   #12
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Hard to tell. everything in the video was blue.lol Video looked like regular exhaust to me. Whose car doesnt smoke on a 20 degree day?
There'* a difference between smoke and exhaust steam. That'* smoke. Steam on a cold morning doesn't clear up that fast.
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Old 03-29-2011, 03:08 PM   #13
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Did a little investigating on the car today...

Opened the hood and checked the oil, was about a half court low which is odd..it was topped off Saturday morning when I refilled it, and that was about 150 miles ago...

Pulled the MAF off and that has an orange gasket on it which looks correct, then pulled the PCV and the O-Ring is installed and looks fine. Installed everything back and started the car.

It kinda sputtered a bit and blew out a large cloud of blue smoke...probably sputtered due to the oil to gas ratio being different..

While the car was idling, i tried taking off the oil cap and couldn't get it off, seems to be a huge suction created there..not sure if this is common or if the PCV is screwed up..

Any help is welcome..not sure where to go from here..

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yep, suction at the oil cap is indicative of bad/ failed pcv valve. replace it, they are cheap insurance.
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Well, interesting find and I think my problem is resolved...

Did some searching around on Autozones website today searching around for a PCV to purchase and swap to see if my problem is solved. While searching around, I ran across a PCV valve kit replacement that included the PCV, an O-Ring for the PCV and the larger one for the housing, the housing that holds the MAF, and a SPRING!!! When I took my old UIM apart and swapped the PCV, I know for a fact there was no spring under the housing. Which kinda pissed me off because during one of the times the car was at the dealer (while under warranty), they swapped the PCV to help my on-going oil consumption problem...(would think the DEALER would at least put it back together right?)...and me not taking that housing apart before, didn't realize a spring was supposed to be in there....

So I called around and found the kit at a local Advanced Auto Parts place for $18.13 with tax and ended up replacing all the O-rings and everything. Reassembled it and started with no smoke..although the car had only sat for a few minutes. Tomorrow morning will be the real test, so hopefully a combination of a bad PCV and a SPRING within the housing fixes my problem, as well as my existing oil consumption problem!!!! Keeping fingers crossed!

But thanks to everyone who has chimed in, sure makes problem solving less of a head ache!!!
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Not having a spring is likely where the oil was coming from. The O ring being missing might cause a vacuum leak, but the missing spring will allow the valve to move up and let oil past it.
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I sure hope so, it has been driving me nuts...and was convinced I was going to be replacing valve seals at some point..hopefully not now!
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Well, problem seems to be resolved and what a relief it was! Started the car this morning and didn't blow any smoke and was back to normal. Must have been a combination of the Spring and bad PCV! Will certainly keep a close eye on everything over the next few weeks!

Thanks for all the input!!!
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Good to hear. I'll mark this thread as fixed.
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Thanks Dan..Appreciate it!
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