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Old 12-04-2002, 01:55 AM   #11
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I was running a 15.4 with just no muffler, no air filter and a good tune up. Just kept the engine cool. And threw all the **** out of my trunk.

And I don't think it would mean you're into the 13'* ... if you've got the weight down to that level ... power is based on an exponential compounding curve in order to reach it... saying "this will drop off a tenth" isn't true at a certian level.

Example: Weight 3600 lbs
ET HP
16.0 195
15.5 205
15.0 235
14.5 260
14.0 290
13.5 320
13.0 370

These are not made up out of no where numbers... do a search for any numbr of 1/4 mile calculators and you'll find that they are relatively close to what others will say/do. I have access to a professional program at my school'* lab so these should be closer than what those will give.

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I'd have to agree. I'm just under 15 (by a hair and a half), and I've done alot more than that. I know 15hp from a filter, or even a full intake is very optomistic, even with other mods. I'd say 5 for a k&n, and MAYBE 10 for a full custom intake, but you won't gain full advantage of that without other mods.
K&N'* are better than stock, but not better than nothing. I don't think there'* any real "need" for any sort of custom intake, by removing that box, and the filter you've essentially got a ram-air system.

With out an air filter on my taurus we dyno'd a solid 13-14 horsepower difference. And that intake is much less restrictive than the Bonneville one. The bonneville'* air silencer is even before the filter ... the thing begs to be removed.

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With a simple resetting of a very special clock I could run 9'* so you all better watch out. LOL

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I was running a 15.4 with just no muffler, no air filter and a good tune up. Just kept the engine cool. And threw all the **** out of my trunk.
Example: Weight 3600 lbs
ET HP
16.0 195
15.5 205
15.0 235
14.5 260
14.0 290
13.5 320
13.0 370

These are not made up out of no where numbers... do a search for any numbr of 1/4 mile calculators and you'll find that they are relatively close to what others will say/do. I have access to a professional program at my school'* lab so these should be closer than what those will give.
These are different than the numbers you posted in the Performance Forum. Please clarify for us which are correct and which are computer generated. Thank you.

And the sig says...14.HOLD THE [email protected]#$ ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Take all the **** out of the trunk. Saved me nearly 50 lbs. And that'* worth a tenth. I didn't have amps and subs so if you've got those then you're really looking at a weight savings -- Free
Im more interested in realistic time. I would take everything out put there really isnt a point in what Im going after. Yea maybe if I was going to bracket race or something then yea I might do that.

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Don't worry about a "Cold Air Intake"
I prefer the short ram intake over cold air due to the short ram is more for low end power than top end. Also I ran before with and without the air filter and it really didnt make that big of a difference in the timeslips.

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Use steel 15-16" rims from the junkyard. They weigh less than those fancy *** mag rims.
I would still use mags but just decrease in rim size. That right there would gain me power right there but not that much maybe 3/4 horses.


Thanks for all the help so far. I got plenty of time till track opens up again to think of different combos and such. It would be nice if I can dyno and run after each mod to see if its a +/-, but I guess that would have to wait till next spring. Anybody know of any N/A Bonnies that do run in the 14'*. [/quote]
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I was running a 15.4 with just no muffler, no air filter and a good tune up. Just kept the engine cool. And threw all the **** out of my trunk.
Example: Weight 3600 lbs
ET HP
16.0 195
15.5 205
15.0 235
14.5 260
14.0 290
13.5 320
13.0 370

These are not made up out of no where numbers... do a search for any numbr of 1/4 mile calculators and you'll find that they are relatively close to what others will say/do. I have access to a professional program at my school'* lab so these should be closer than what those will give.
These are different than the numbers you posted in the Performance Forum. Please clarify for us which are correct and which are computer generated. Thank you.

And the sig says...14.HOLD THE F@#$ ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You'll notice here I put down a lesser weight number... here it says 3600, over there it says 3700.

-Duck
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