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Old 09-11-2004, 11:32 PM   #31
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When you guys talk about replacing the rears with Reflexes or whatever other brands, how do you adapt them to keep the ELC active?

I'm probably going with Reflexes on the front, and I *really* don't wanna spend $300+ for a new pair of OEM POS'*, so do they make Reflexes that hook into the air system or something? I'm really confused...

Also, what'* the difference b/w CCR and ELC? Is ELC just the system that controls what level to keep the rear-end at, and CCR the actual mechanical parts that actuate the rear-end lift or drop?
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580-4 - gm number - 22189454
GM PART # 22189454
PACK QTY: 1
GM LIST: $301.34
OUR PRICE: $150.68
DESCRIPTION: STRUT
There'* a couple previous topics that mention CCR part #'*

http://www.bonnevilleclub.com/forum/...pic.php?t=2976

http://www.bonnevilleclub.com/forum/...ic.php?t=10609

They suggest the Front CCR Strut part # is 22064562, which is $289 at GMPD
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Long long LONG gone on the CCR and I can't get the codes out of it. Not sure if I'm jumping the right terminals though.
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Sound off here if you have CCR, whether it'* working or not, and the year of your car.
'95 with 97K, working

My car is always parked overnight in a carport (avoids getting wet, lets it dry off if it does), I avoid driving it in rain/snow if possible, and once a month I cycle the CCR so that the motors in each strut get some "exercise"
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When you guys talk about replacing the rears with Reflexes or whatever other brands, how do you adapt them to keep the ELC active?

I'm probably going with Reflexes on the front, and I *really* don't wanna spend $300+ for a new pair of OEM POS'*, so do they make Reflexes that hook into the air system or something? I'm really confused...

Also, what'* the difference b/w CCR and ELC? Is ELC just the system that controls what level to keep the rear-end at, and CCR the actual mechanical parts that actuate the rear-end lift or drop?
Let'* clear up a couple points. A Bonneville produced WITHOUT CCR may still have ELC, but the struts aren't purely AIR. They're gas charged struts WITH air for levelling.

CCR struts may ALSO be air for ELC, and most SSE'* and SSEi'* are that way (except for pre-94 that got no CCR, thank God).

The options listed in the following link are fully compatible with ELC, and have various types of valving for the gas portion of the strut. It should be noted that the GAS portion is what affects road handling, ride quality, and the like, while the AIR portion MAINLY only effects ride height:

http://www.williamwren.com/struts/ELC.html
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...but maybe a little too well.

My car, when you shut it off, the compressor kicks on and stays on for quite a while (3,4 minutes) I figure this is normal?
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Not normal. Get the soap out, and do what I did in that link. If the struts aren't leaking, you'll find a fitting that is, or even the compressor.
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580-4 - gm number - 22189454
GM PART # 22189454
PACK QTY: 1
GM LIST: $301.34
OUR PRICE: $150.68
DESCRIPTION: STRUT
There'* a couple previous topics that mention CCR part #'*

http://www.bonnevilleclub.com/forum/...pic.php?t=2976

http://www.bonnevilleclub.com/forum/...ic.php?t=10609

They suggest the Front CCR Strut part # is 22064562, which is $289 at GMPD
just fyi - i took the ac delco part number i was given, and put it into a database i have access too that cross references delco and gm part numbers, which is where my numbers came from
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97 -air compressor doesnt work anymore
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OK.........

Did I get lucky or not?????

2 weeks ago I had a set of tires put on and when I went in to have them done the CCR didn't work.

When I got the car back for some reason the ride controls now work.

Please explain.....Loose wire maybe?????????
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