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Old 08-31-2004, 05:06 PM
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99 SSEi
98,000mi
Works like a champ

96 Ultra
Struts replaced @ 68,000

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I think most of the membership here lives in harsh climates with strong winters. I bet those air system'* don't like such things as a hard freeze...
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There shouldn't be any moisture in the system. The compressor for the suspension has a moisture seperator.
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My 96 doesn't have the CCR'* but my dad'* 98 SSEi does and they failed in 2000. Pontiac house replaced them under warranty with non-ccr struts.

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I'm doing about 100mph at least 3x'* per week on highway. There are like 2 bumps that I hit and the car seems to handle well. I normally stay in "Performance ride" to keep my front wheels down. I have a 95, how do I know if I have a prob w shocks or struts. Is it just the old bounce method? And I have 3 stabilizer bars. Rear, front and in engine compartment. These help dramaticallly with those bumps at 100mph on a curve, right?
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Originally Posted by G2SSEi95
I'm doing about 100mph at least 3x'* per week on highway. There are like 2 bumps that I hit and the car seems to handle well. I normally stay in "Performance ride" to keep my front wheels down. I have a 95, how do I know if I have a prob w shocks or struts. Is it just the old bounce method? And I have 3 stabilizer bars. Rear, front and in engine compartment. These help dramaticallly with those bumps at 100mph on a curve, right?
Put two men in the trunk (sitting there, don't kill them), The car should raise back up.
Every 92-99 has those three bars. The one in the engine compartment is called the Strut Tower Brace, It is not a stabilizer bar. The two under the car are called Anti-Sway Bars or Sway bars depending on who you talk to, even though the first is actually correct. The best help in corners is a full suspension package. Although depending on your suspension RPO You may have a better ride than others.
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Originally Posted by G2SSEi95
I'm doing about 100mph at least 3x'* per week on highway. There are like 2 bumps that I hit and the car seems to handle well. I normally stay in "Performance ride" to keep my front wheels down. I have a 95, how do I know if I have a prob w shocks or struts. Is it just the old bounce method? And I have 3 stabilizer bars. Rear, front and in engine compartment. These help dramaticallly with those bumps at 100mph on a curve, right?
All of us have all 3 bars. The two Stabilizers and the STB under the hood. Even the SE'*. Our stab bars are bigger though. If your struts are shot, both the touring and performance led'* will be on at the same time. Codes can be extracted by checking Techinfo.
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Cool. Because that happened b4 maybe hasn't been in a year or so both both light have come on together. I just thought it was a malfunction. Nothing recently so maybe it was. I do the body thing though.
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1999......obviously FAILED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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What are you guys saying is failing, the ELC or the CCR. I keep reading posts that mention air and such. From my investigations only the rear struts are air, and are deflated unless there is a call for it from the sensor. As for the CCR, that uses actuators to change the valving in the struts, not air. Maybe im wrong?

We have had ELC in my family since 1982, and the only probs we have with is the air shocks go. No big deal. Sometimes I have come across cars where the sensor goes and jacks the rear end, but that is rare.

If my struts go bad, im not going to complain. My car was built Sept 98, so they are 6 years old with 99K on them, they were good to me. I would not replace them with CCR struts because in NY state a car with 6 years (winters) on it is starting to get undercarrage rust and will 'blossom' within the next season or two, and that is when I get rid of em. So $2,000 in suspension parts is not practical to me.

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