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Old May 15, 2010 | 02:24 PM
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how much did it cost u to get your refrigerant refilled?
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Old May 16, 2010 | 12:43 AM
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Originally Posted by raptor660
how much did it cost u to get your refrigerant refilled?
It was one of those jiffy lube type places. I didn't think it was going to be that complicated.

They charged:

A/C service: $39.99
1.7 of 134a: 67.00
Stop Leak: 39.99

for about $147 total

I know - I was hosed, but I thought they still used R12 & I couldn't even buy it.
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Old May 16, 2010 | 01:34 AM
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Nope, R12 is not used anymore. Some mechanics may still have some laying around, but that is getting fewer and fewer.
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Old May 17, 2010 | 01:44 PM
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Does anybody know how much total R12 these hold?

If I still had 1.5 lbs of R12 in there wouldn't that be plenty to cool, as long as the system hardware was working?
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Old May 17, 2010 | 02:41 PM
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I have found that if you are low on refrigerant, the system tends to freeze up. It will work for a bit and then you have to turn it off for a few and wait for it to thaw out. I know that everyone can't do their own work, but that Jiffy Lube was really over charging. A can of 134 around here is $7 figure on 2 cans and good stop leak is $20 (best to replace the leaking part) So they really jacked you on the 143a.

I just replaced the compressor on my car, bought a venture vacuum pump at Harbor Freight for $14, 2 cans of 134a and a can of 134a with PAG oil. I had the hose with pressure guage. Cost me around $35 and it was easy to do. Blows 40 degree air. Of course my car uses 134a so no conversion was necessary .

I had a '91 T-bird that I had to do a conversion on, I flushed it out with compressed air as best as I could then added the new conversion fitting and vacuumed it down, added a can of oil/134a and charged it. It worked ok for the most part, but it was never as good as it was on R12 and not as good as a real R134a system.
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Old May 17, 2010 | 08:30 PM
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Static, are those 16oz cans? It looks like the total capacity of R12 is 2.25 lbs, so for me that 1.7 lbs of 134a plus the stop-leak should be enough. I'm going to get it back up there & have their real mechanic check it out along with the pressure.

Thanks for the info. Hopefully that was my case & it really did just need more refrigerant.

&, when they quoted that price to me before it went in, I figured that was for R12. Seemed OK for that.

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