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Old 01-29-2005, 07:36 PM   #11
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Yes i can post a picture, i will have to take 1. The coil pack that i have has 3 wires on each side, not all on 1 side. Sounds to me like a Magnavox as you described. Unfortunatly all this snow makes it hell at the local junkyards. Today i checked the codes again and got a 41 and a 58, I checked the alldata on the 58 and it has to do with the chip in the key. I never had that one before. I'm going to reset the computer and try another key and see what happens. I still think it is in the module or like you stated, Cam magnet, I hope it'* the module. That timing cover looks like a biatch.

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Thanks for the info. You seem to be pretty up on this type of car, any ideas? This only happens occasionally and it hasnt stalled while driving again since the cam and crank sensor has been replaced.

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Magnavox has three plug wire terminals on both sides. Delco has all six on the right side.
Can you snap a pic of your ICM and coils and post it? Don't count on having your ICM tested. The results they give you are typically wrong. The best troubleshooting is to 'borrow' a set from another 3800 and see how it goes.

Sometimes a coil or ICM can have heat-related failures. Yours obviously isn't a coil. It would still start, but not run well. It could be an ICM, or the interruptor magnet.

If it'* the magnet, the car will start 1 out of 6 times or so. Or is it FAIL to start one out of 6?
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Since my original post i havent had any problems, but this is the way that this problem has been going since i replaced the cam & crank sensor. It worked fine for roughly 2 weeks and then i had the no start, then maybe another 2 weeks and another no start. I know it'* electrical, when the no start appears the tach doesnt move. I know that either the crank or cam sensor was bad, now the car doesnt quit while driving. Just an occasional No start problem.

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Thanks for the info. You seem to be pretty up on this type of car, any ideas? This only happens occasionally and it hasnt stalled while driving again since the cam and crank sensor has been replaced.

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Magnavox has three plug wire terminals on both sides. Delco has all six on the right side.
Can you snap a pic of your ICM and coils and post it? Don't count on having your ICM tested. The results they give you are typically wrong. The best troubleshooting is to 'borrow' a set from another 3800 and see how it goes.

Sometimes a coil or ICM can have heat-related failures. Yours obviously isn't a coil. It would still start, but not run well. It could be an ICM, or the interruptor magnet.

If it'* the magnet, the car will start 1 out of 6 times or so. Or is it FAIL to start one out of 6?
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The code 58 under normal circumstances would be ignored, as it'* known to be a bug in the 92 PCM, but in your case, things may be different.

Do you have a spare key? Does it work any better? Vats may be part or all of the problem. Clean the contacts on your key and where it mates with the ignition switch. Use rubbing alcohol (not beer) and a Qtip.
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Yes, I have another key. I just had reset the computer and will start and only use the other key until i see if this was the problem. I had a key awhile back and didnt have any problems at all, then that key was bent, so i went to a local GM store and got a new key, which i have been using sence then. So, Yes maybe the key is the problem or at least part of the problem. I will let you know when i get back home from my 40 mile ride.

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The code 58 under normal circumstances would be ignored, as it'* known to be a bug in the 92 PCM, but in your case, things may be different.

Do you have a spare key? Does it work any better? Vats may be part or all of the problem. Clean the contacts on your key and where it mates with the ignition switch. Use rubbing alcohol (not beer) and a Qtip.
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