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Coolant in the engine complete engine shutdown whar do i do?

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Old 06-12-2006, 08:19 PM
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This what I need?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/PONTI...spagenameZWDVW

and if i take the upperintake manifold off what should i look for?
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No, you want the Dillon upper intake manifold. Rebuilt and improved by Bob Dillon. Bill Buttermore has helped extensively with ideas and research as well, with help from jr's3800 (Admin) as well.

Both Bob and Bill are Gearheads here. The cost is a FRACTION of a new UIM.

Read this:
http://www.bonnevilleclub.com/forum/...e=article&k=38

And post any questions you may have in this topic.
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Originally Posted by 19bonnie95
Any chance it'* the head gaskets? Do i just need gaskets or what? ...but was just wondering what'* the chance that it'* the head gaskets and what'* the chance that it is the upper or lower intake? I don't know how complex it is and i dont have many tools at this location yet just the basic ones.... sockets wrenchs etc.
(Cleaned that up for you, a bit.)
In answer to your questions: That chance that it'* the head gaskets is very close to zero. Reason being: (According to reports on this club) we've **never** had head gaskets go.

You'll need upper and lower intake manifold gaskets and a new upper intake. As others have mentioned, get a Bob Dillon rebuild from Bob Dillon here in this club.

You'll need sockets and wrenches, rags, scraping tools, and maybe a wire brush to remove old gasket material. Cleaning fluid like Brake cleaner may be helpful too. Even if the task seems a little bit complex, you have all the combined knowledge of all the people in this group to help you get through any part that might stump you. We have documented the process in threads on this club complete with photographs that should be helpful in guiding you through the repair.

You know, there are cases where you don't want to do this yourself, and you might find a club member nearby to lend a hand. When mine blew in December I had zero time to mess with it and needed my car back immediately, so I had my dealer do it. It was expensive. If you have some time at all, and the ability to take your time and ask here for help if you need it as you go along, you'll find the collective wisdom of this group to be an amazing resource. If mine went today, I'd do it myself.
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SO I realized that I get Madison and Milwaukee messed up....LOL

365 miles all on hwy 94/90.....Guess it'* not too bad. But...I'd be staying somewhere there lol
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Ok well get this that upper intake manifold is from 2003 yea thats right 2003 the arrow points to 03 the options are like 00 01 02 and 03 and its pointing to 03 didn't they fix that problem by then?
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Well it will be easy enough to tell if you pull it.
You might have had lower gaskets fail, maybe the upper manifold
and upper gasket were replaced without doing the lower.

We've seen that before too.
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Originally Posted by 19bonnie95
Ok well get this that upper intake manifold is from 2003 yea thats right 2003 the arrow points to 03 the options are like 00 01 02 and 03 and its pointing to 03 didn't they fix that problem by then?
Nope and its still not fixed to my understanding.

On the repair, I just did mine back in April. Its not a tuff job and once you do it, it will be easy the next time. You can practically do the whole job with a 1/4" ratchet and a few sockets. You will need a low range Torque wrench capable of going as low as 89 in-lbs (10n-m) for the upper and 11ft-lbs (15n-m) for the lower. Cleaning all the parts is the hardest and longest part of the job.
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Well I took the upper intake manifold off today only pain was getting it off with the alt in the way i dunno if i want to change the lower intake manifold gaskets once i took the top off there was coolant filled to the top sitting on the lower intake the holes that are there that dont lead into the engine were all filled with coolant it was a mess.
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