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Old 09-19-2004, 12:54 PM   #1
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I used to have an intake made from a dryer vent with a K&N filter and everything worked great. Had a problem with the car starting one day and took it to Pepboys and they said all it was was a loose battery cable so they did whatever and it worked again. Then a couple of weeks later the car wouldnt start again and then I took it to Pepboys again and they said I needed a new starter and all of that work ran me $350 but it worked even better than before so I was satisfied. Couple days later I bought that Spectre rice pipe intake from Auto Zone and installed it the next day successfully. I started the car and it started like normal and let it run for a minute or so and even revved it a few times and it was ok. So I turned off the car and then I turned it on again because I liked how the new starter felt brand new and for some odd reason the car would not start just a clicking sound. I was really pissed because I had just spent $350 to get this thing fixed once and for all and that doesnt even include the first time that I took it in. So I tried several things from checking the cables on both ends of both cables and everything was ok so I thought maybe the intake was the problem so I checked that out and made sure the proper connections were made but still a no go. So I grabbed some pliers and proceeded to the battery when a big bolt of lightning shot out from the alternator and struck me right in the forehead sending blood out of my ears out ten yards in both directions. nah just kidding. But anyways with pliers in hand I took off both battery cables and let it sit for a minute. I then reconnected them with fingers crossed and attempted to start the car. IT WORKED!!! I was so happy and there wasnt a single problem with starting thereafter. This was the day before yesterday and it worked all day then and all day yesterday until today. Father was going to the grocerie store and when he tried to start it the same clicking noise is all he got. I told him to go do that battery thing like I did of which he is in the process of right now so we'll see how that goes. If this works then why would I have to keep doing this? If all you guys can have intakes with no problems then it certainly cant be the intake right? The IAT sensor is in a good location so I dont see what the problem is. Could it just be the battery cables or is it maybe even the CPU? Please help me guys this really really sux and I dont have any money right now so my dad would have to pick up the bill.
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So I grabbed some pliers and proceeded to the battery when a big bolt of lightning shot out from the alternator and struck me right in the forehead sending blood out of my ears out ten yards in both directions.
Gotta hate it when that happens

I too think it may be Vat related, do you have another set of keys you can try?
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And where is this security light at? When the key is in the ignition the chiming noise beeps in a fast rythm like if its some sort of alarm. I dont really know about the security system this thing has but it sounds like we are gettting closer to the problem. The battery is brand new and I have had it for about 6 months or less. These are the only keys that I have.
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Security light is on your dash. See that little chip in your key? It'* a resistor. There are several different values, and the car is setup to recognize only one. If the contacts in the ignition switch don't read correctly, the car won't start. Try another key, or clean the key and the contacts in the switch with alcohol and a q-tip.
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Read up on the VATS systems and it seems like this could very well be the problem. Will check some fuses and try cleanin off the key to see what happens.
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If it'* intermittent as you describe, it'* not a fuse.
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i had a simular problem on mine, it turns out I needed to totally take apart the battery terminal and clean all the corrosion and acid off. there was a ton of gunk that just a surface clean wouldnt have gotten off.
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Ya there was a bit of corrosion on the positive terminal but cleaning it off with a toothbrush didnt work. I have yet to try the cleaning of the contacts on the inside of the ignition but I already cleaned the key really good. Will I get shocked if I insert a wet qtip into the key hole?
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No. Nothing will happen because for one the ignition is off, and two this is DC, not AC


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No but I seriously doubt thats it because when I connect it there is a spark and I still get that clicking sound. But I just checked all fuses, put back stock airbox, disconnected both cables from battery for a couple of minutes and even cleaned the inside of the keyhole really good with an alcohol dipped qtip and still nothing. And the security light doesnt go on either so I am really stumped on this one. I noticed that the starter they put in was a Bosch one, does this make any difference since most people here say their stuff sux? Well my dad will be getting it towed again for the third time to PepBoys in the morning so we'll see what they say. The scariest thing I have felt about this situation is that I just noticed I was leaking a little bit of coolant from what looks like the lower intake manifold and I have no money to fix this. What could it be just a gasket or something? Does this usually happen when you run it hard? My driving habbits arent that bad but I do usually floor it when I have the road to myself.
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