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Old 10-25-2007, 02:17 AM   #11
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. Why wold anyone put that box of fuses and relay'* right there anyway .
I'm not sure your car has that passenger side panel. Check your owners manual (if you've got one) and see if it mentions it, before you start cutting it open .
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I removed the cover underneath the dash where the ecm is and found access to only the fuses for the fuel pum and things. they're like 10 fuses I think or more. the relays are above it and there other **** in the way. I can't get to it from under the dash.
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Sounds like you are running in some circles.. going to bring this to all GH attention for some help.
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Your TPS isn't a factor for a no-start. Ignore it.

The fuses on the passenger side are easily accessed without dash removal. Remove the hushpanel, and check the fuses.
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Behind the battery is a green connector. That will show if you are getting the fuel pump prime signal. Also listening to for the fuel pump is a key thing here. If you don't hear it at all with someone else turning the key, that'* likely your problem if you can test the pressure and find you don't have at least 30psi....most likely your car won't start.

There is only one way that the TPS can keep your car from starting. That'* if it reads 100%. At 100% your fuel injectors are turned off by the PCM, it sees 100% throttle at startup as trying to clear a flooded engine.
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I use to hear the fuel pump before this happen, but I don't hear it when I turn the key or jumper the connector. I can rule out the tps, since I unplugged it and it still wouldn't start. I tried to find out what and where the hush panel, but I had no luck. is it located right behind the glove box?

Right before my car died that night I tried to step on the gas to keep it going, but that didn't work.
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I removed the cover underneath the dash where the ecm is and found access to only the fuses for the fuel pum and things. they're like 10 fuses I think or more. the relays are above it and there other ***^ in the way. I can't get to it from under the dash.
Ok, I went out and did this on my '94 -- it'* been a while.

You're in the right spot. The cover you took off is the hush panel.

My panel has a diagram pasted inside that shows a fuel pump relay, a fuel pump fuse, an injector fuse, and a pcm/vats fuse, amongst others. These would seem to be important fuses, although they rarely go out, it seems. If your cover doesn't have that diagram, maybe the '94 is the same as yours and I can draw or scan it for you.

You can get to the fuses, but you may have to get into the passenger seat upside-down and snake your way down further (I've seen a pic of willwren doing it, and if he can stand the pain, we all can )

(Ok, now I said it, I suppose I have to get my overweight, overgangly, over-aged frame out there and try it )

The fuses and relay may not be the problem, but since you're there, might as well check.

edited : ok, I can still get at the fuses. (If as you snake down underneath, you turn onto your left side, the pain isn't as excruciating lol) (BTW spoiledred94 held the position for about 4 hours working on his emergency brake. He'* still walking in an *-shape )
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Right when I brought someone with me and got a fuel gauge, the car started, but it ran rough. As for the fuel pump I got 47 psi with the key on, 41 psi running, and 50 psi with the regulator hose off. I seen a post somewhere around here because I'm buried with posts about this stuff. They said they got they're car started, but it ran rough afterwards. I just can't remember what caused his whole issue.

I notice when they is on my oil pressure was moving a little bit like it was struggling to get pass the zero mark is this normal?
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I notice when they is on my oil pressure was moving a little bit like it was struggling to get pass the zero mark is this normal?
Say again? (you must have a typo here.)

edited: maybe you mean with just the key on, engine not running?
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Did you plug you TSP sensor back in?
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