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1992-1999 Series I L27 (1992-1994 SE,SLE, SSE) & Series II L36 (1995-1999 SE, SSE, SLE) and common problems for the Series I and II L67 (all supercharged models 92-99) Including Olds 88's, Olds LSS's and Buick Lesabres Please use General Chat for non-mechanical issues, and Performance and Brainstorming for improvements.

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Old 06-08-2004, 07:29 AM   #31
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i have reviewed everything and with everyone i know.... so far ive concluded its the starter or weak connection from ignition to starter. ill have them tell me whats wrong for sure and see if i can do the job from there.
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Sorry.. I didn't have time over the weekend.. and then forgot my digi-cam. Will hopefully take the pics of it tonight for you of starter/solenoid. When it doesn't start.. try wiggling the wires going to the battery post loosen and re-tighten..if it starts that means you have bad connection to the battery.. you can start off there.. its one of the easiest.
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i got under htere and bent one of the starter wires so it was verticala nd now it starts 90% of the time instead of 50%...

i went and and the starter, battery, and andlternator checked, all good...

so im dumbfounded. its gotta be something electrical...right?

i wanna put in exhaust soon but this has to be fixed.
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i got under htere and bent one of the starter wires so it was verticala nd now it starts 90% of the time instead of 50%...

i went and and the starter, battery, and andlternator checked, all good...

so im dumbfounded. its gotta be something electrical...right?

i wanna put in exhaust soon but this has to be fixed.
So you have a loose/dirty connection there.. you saw where the wires go to right? To the back of a lil cylinder thing ( that sits on top of the actual starter motor ). Thats the starter solenoid. When it doesn't start next time.. see if you hear a loud click. And bring a nice long metal rod ( or long screwdrver ) and battery booster cable.. I will get the pics for you hopefully this weekend.. Digi-Cam is still @ Tamara'* ( hopefully she hasn't drained the batteries)
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ok thanks
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the starter motor itself is usually fine.. it'* usually the Starter solenoid that is the culprit.. I will take apic and show you where to jump straight from your battery to the solenoid.. and if it cranks over ( sometimes you will hear it free spin ) then the starter motor is fine.. but the solenoid is shot.. find a place that will replace that part alone.. and you could pull the starter off and back on a lot easier.. the solenoid installed ( onto the starter ) only cost me $50 funny money CAD.. so it should be cheaper for you yanks..
thats exactly what mine did last week (free spin kinda thing) and i took mine to goodyear to be fixed and they replaced the starter with a rebuilt one and everything is great now starts perfectly thats what i think that your trouble is. cost like 300$ i think...
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k.. here'* the pics.. they maybe HUGE !!! Sorry..

This is the from driver side and the radiator is right on top of me during this pic


This is a closer pic of the starter solenoid.. as you can tell that piece is new.. it'* the only none dirty gunky one.. $50 :cad: it cost me for install and parts



This pics is sideways so you'll have to tilt it your right way from the pic'* angle. Put your car to on.. put one end of the booster cable to the positive end.. and putt the other end onto a long rod.. be careful for this step.. don't touch anything else. touch the top ( left in this pic ) and center with the rod where the booster cable is attatched to, this will cause the solenoid to engage and have the current to turn the starter motor. There maybe a few times you will hear the starter free spin but don't worry.. just release and try again.. BE ALSO VERY CAREFUL THAT YOU DON'T OVERCRANK ( it would be the same affect as crankin it with your key and holding it


It would've cost me $275 for the starter w/ solenoid replacement, but I didn't need to spend that much.. just call a shop and get the contact of whom rebuilds the starter. If you hear it click only with your key then try this method and see if it turns over... if it does it means loose connections somewhere.. if it also clicks when you tried it with the key and this method.. thats a good indication the solenoid is gone.
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ok now it dosent want to turn over at all. i tried it for 40 mins...

when it turns over to start it starts and you would never know there is a problem.
and a refurbished starter is $80 here.

or should i bring it to the dealer and have them find the problem for $80?

im really mad right now.
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The fact that your security light stays on still indicates a problem with the Pass-key system to me... Maybe time for the dealer.
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on my way for the $80 diagnostic test...
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