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98 Bonneville SE - No 4th Gear / OD

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Old Apr 21, 2010 | 07:42 PM
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Question 98 Bonneville SE - No 4th Gear / OD

In my Bonneville, the 4th Gear / OD is out of it completely. The car drives great other then that. My thoughts are to either rebuild the transmission or to get a pull from a junkyard. Either option requires me to know what kind of transmission I have. From what I've read, this is a 4T65E transmission (correct me if I'm wrong), but there were 2 different models put into this year. Does anyone know how to go about identifiying for sure which one I have? I have called up Pontiac and gave them my VIN and they said they are unable to tell by it. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
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Old Apr 21, 2010 | 08:14 PM
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You can get the model # off the metal tag thats on the back side of the trans. Should be something like 5BXW. First # represents model year.
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Yes, your car should have the 4t65e, the other transmission is the 4t65e-hd, same transmission, just a stronger diff.

There'* a possibility the problem is a stripped 4th gear input shaft. A new hardened shaft is about $60. If that'* not stripped then it could be a stuck valve in the valve body.
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The most common issue will be a stripped 4th gear clutch hub.

For the other gears to operate properly, the soleniods can not be bad. There is no valve in the trans that I am aware of that can stick to cause 4th to not work.

There are a couple options available:
1. Lower your cradle and engine/trans. Remove the side cover, then pump/valve body/channel plate as one unit gaining access to the gears and shaft. Replace shaft and channel plate gaskets, reassemble.
2. Have a trans shop pull and rebuild
3. Get a junkyard trans and swap. The chance with this option is that you get another trans with a bad 4th hub. Sawgunner recently went this route and was unlucky.
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Ok. I've been looking at replacement transmissions around here and I found 1 for $125.00, however I need to know if it is a MN3 or M15 transmission. Is that also contained on the tag on the transmission then too I assume? What am I looking for in that number to tell me which one I should replace it with?
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That is probably the gear ratio indication of the tag. The tag is located on the differential end of the transmission (passengerside).
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