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Old 07-06-2003, 12:24 AM   #11
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I bought the new relay...I'll have a look see tomorrow..me and my trust Chiltons, and a case of beer..while I wait for my buddies GF to come and pick my a$$ up...lol....good times

Or I will blow up the car and hope the dealer can salvage my mess
Shouldnt need the manual - the old relay should come off, and attach the new one. If the right-hand indicator is working, fire it up and follow the clicking sound. Else, will need a flashlight to poke around the maze of wires...

BTW: did you ever get your cam sensor done? What was the prob? I still have that pesky SES light and the hesitation the odd time...
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Ya, I got the cam magnet/timing chain fixed about 3 weeks ago now...maybe more. Cost me about $800 clams, but it unleashed a monster, its great to have the performance back again. Added an STB bar while I was at it

I plan on having a look tomorrow for the relay. But I'm takin the car back in for some ignition/start up servicing, so I might get them to kill two birds with one stone while its there.
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[quote="89BonnieSE89"]Ya, I got the cam magnet/timing chain fixed about 3 weeks ago now...maybe more. Cost me about $800 clams, but it unleashed a monster, its great to have the performance back again. Added an STB bar while I was at it
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Really? Got that much of a gain from doing the chain? Wow. I've noticed its perfomance going down over the past few years, but thought it was the tranny getting on in years.

STB bar = ? (Pardon my ignorance )
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The reason I got the performance gain is two-fold really, I never had it in the first place, ever since I bought the car, the code 41 issue was always present, secondly, the timing chain over the years begins to wear out and slack a bit. When fixing the cam magnet, they also replace the metal timing chain and upgrade the tensioner. Everything becomes nice and tight, which really helps the acceleration of the vehicle.

Oh the STB, strut tower bar, 87-91 Bonnevilles we deemed to light to need an STB (its a bar that bolts up to the top of the strut towers above your front wheels. Anyway, the STB reduces flex in the chassis, it ties in the suspension and gives the car a much more stable feel. An STB was a standard feature on 92+ Bonnies, and bolts right up to yours

Wow...sorry, way off topic
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Have you ever replaced the front springs (or any other part of the suspension)? Mine is totally stock
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Nope, haven't found the need to. I do a "spring test" every once in a while. I go to a corner of the car, push down and see what happens. Ususally 1 or 2 bounces and it should return to normal. I have seen some older SSEs around, and the back end are always so low. I look at mine and the back end sticks up kinda...well, not like a Neon (thats a bit much) but its definitely not as saggy as some SSEs. I always figured that was a set of springs gone horribly bad. Either that or my F41 suspension is better then softer ride suspesion systems
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OK now that I realize after reading the fourm, that there are TWO relays, I went searching around and noticed that there was another one hidden away behind the fuse panel. Well, In the past, I tried to replace the stock relay [ thermal ] with an aftermarket one [ electric ] , but it seems that I accidently replaced the wrong one, which is why I never noticed a difference before. Now everything works just fine , so don't worry about what I said earlier about connecting another 1157 harness and all that, you won't need to anymore.
Now I wonder if the LED style bulbs will work with the new relay...
O yea and if you want to get the relay just go to Autozone and lo0k it up in the reference book they have there.
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