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Old Jun 7, 2006 | 10:16 PM
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i have an 88 bonneville with the 3800 engine and while driving it, it just quit at first i thought it was the fuel pump since i cannot hear it when you turn the key on but upon further inspection i have no fuel or spark. what could cause this is there anything i can troubleshoot to try?
car was running greta before this happened.
and the timing chain did not break it is still turning the cam.
would the crankshaft or camshaft sensor cause a no spark and no fuel problem?
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Old Jun 8, 2006 | 05:45 AM
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Lot'* of things could cause this. Start with the simple things like power to the ECM, ICM, ect.
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Old Jun 8, 2006 | 06:34 AM
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which wires do i test to check for power to the ecm?
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Old Jun 8, 2006 | 09:09 AM
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You need to start by checking the actual fuel pressure with a gage. The crank sensor does control the fuel at the injectors and the ignition, but it does not control the pump. Verify there is or is not fuel pressure to the rail. If you have sufficient pressure there then you just have an ignition problem. Then I would look at the crank sensor.
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Old Jun 8, 2006 | 07:53 PM
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no i don't hear the pump at all and i could hear the pump before this happened

is there any way to test the wires going to the crank or cam sensors with a volt meter to see if it is at least getting a signal
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Old Jun 9, 2006 | 11:10 AM
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Check for fuel pressure at the schrader valve on the rail first. The pump may not be running because the rail is holding pressure. Just a possibility.
Then you could go onto electrical.
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Old Jun 9, 2006 | 05:07 PM
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i have done that and there is nothing at all in the fuel rail.
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Old Jun 9, 2006 | 09:17 PM
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does anyone know where the fuel pump relay is located i cannot find it at all
i found 2 relays on the firewall one is for the a/c and the other is for the heater fan, then i found 2 in front of the air filter box and they are both for the rad fan for high and low so does anyone know where to find the fuel pump one?
i still have no spark but i am trying to figure this out one step at a time.
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