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Old 12-26-2007, 07:51 PM   #11
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there r other vids of ppl going fast. y do i get torn? wtvr. i just wont post vids no more. and i drive with hand controls. my hands r tied up. my bud in the passenger seat video taped. and i asked them both b4 i did. and was in wut i thought to be the safest environment. never did it with this car. did it once and got it on vid. thats all i need. and driving is one of the few things i can still do being paralyzed from the nips down. and no i didnt get paralyzed going that fast. i was only doing 30-35mph on my bike.
I think the reason you have been identified here is because of the excessive speed (although I have my own opinions on excess speed). Not to pick on you but having been paralyzed due to a traumatic injury, you of all people should know what trauma can result in. Did you think these sorts of speeds would result in less serious injury? This clearly put others at significant risk. It'* unfortunate that you had a bad Christmas, but this sort of behaviour may well have caused your friends and their families to have a bad Christmas too (although they should have been smart enough not to be in the car with you).

i see exactly where ur comin from. that night the way i saw it is that i got both of thier permission. and when we slowed back down i shook both thier hands and told em to hit the rock cuz god wuz with us on that one. i know the wut the chances r. they say if a tire blows out at higher then 90mph, then u have like a 95% chance of dying. my life just sucks now and all my fun is in my car and just a big drama thing. but ur right i put others at risk. but i did pick the safest environment possible with no other cars near. i will just do it alone next time. even tho they both blew up everyone right after to tell them wut they did. am i the only young guy here. u guys never did this stuff when u were young?
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I think we should just chill out

Yes, it prolly was too fast <havent seen the vid, but i think speedo ends at 140-160>
Yes it was stupid

But yes, other people do it too.

May not want to go that fast again though because you may get pooed on

So everybody chill out now.

Thanks, that is all
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Alright, Glad to see you adressed the points made to you in a decent manner, most people would not of, kudos on that.

Lets just not turn this thread into a debate of sorts on speeding and what not, as there are far to many varieties of opinion on this subject, that someone might take it personally and it could get out of hand quick.

Other members, not just yourself have gotten "flack" regarding such subject matter, trust me.
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Throughout life every one of us does things that aren't a good idea. We learn from our experiences (good or bad) and carry on. I'm pretty big on trying to learn from other peoples mistakes. I'm concerned that this may have been precipitated by the less than joyful Christmas you had and it may have clouded your judgement.

You are the perfect advocate for safe behaviour and this is why I was so disturbed at your post. No one is saying don't go out and have fun. You just need to do this under the right conditions (ie: at the track).

Every day I go to work I deal with people who didn't think they were going to be hurt or injured. Sadly, others around (whether in the same vehicle or not) are affected. You're welcome to PM me if you want to talk about this more. One of our public safety messages is "If you don't think it can happen to you, you just aren't listening".
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I am glad that you do realize that you put them at risk here. The important thing is that you don't do it again. What'* done is done.... We can't change that, we can only try to help you learn and realize the responsibility that you are undertaking in doing something like this. You not only put your own life in danger, but also the lives of two other people. Sure, they said it was OK, but do they really know and understand all the dangers of speed like that?

The whole thing about the speed overall probably stems from the fact that it is winter and most roads are not in the greatest shape right now. Even dry roads will still have salt or sand on them that will affect traction.

I am sorry that your life sucks right now, but that is no reason to be wreckless with other people in the vehicle with you.

You are absolutly NOT the only young person here, I will be 25 in about three weeks. We also have tons of members here that are younger then myself.

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u guys never did this stuff when u were young?
Honestly... No, I didn't ever do that. Not that fast anyways. I owned a '86 Dodge Aries that topped out at probably 90 MPH and then my '89 Bonneville SE that I had up to 110 MPH. Now, of course, I WAS dumb and had nobody to tell me that it was dumb at the time, but now that I am older and understand about mounts, bushings, tires, balance, and all the other things that make high speed dangerous I realize that it was not the smartest idea to do so.

I am not saying that going 110, or 140 for that matter, is dumb, but that you need to really know your vehicle and make sure that everying is in good shape before doing a high speed run. Also, of course, make sure the road is open, straight, smooth, and basically deserted. Of course, the best and safest place to do these things are on a track.


The whole thing here is that we are not so much picking on you... and sure, you could go to many other automotive forums and they would think you are the coolest guy out there to have a car that fast.
We bring these things up because on BC we are more then an automotive forum. We are in a way a large family that looks out for each other and tries to help each other learn from mistakes and help to make sure we all stay safe with our vehicles.


Think about this... How would you feel if you did crash and one of your friends died and you lived




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May not want to go that fast again though because you may get pooed on
That is NOT why he shouldn't go that fast again , and comments like that are not appreciated. He is not getting all the attention here because we hate high speed, If that was the case, we wouldn't recommend Intense products. It is a safety thing, and we want to make sure everyone understands that.
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I agree the track is the best place for speed. But some of us like to go fast for longer than 1/4 of a mile. I would love to race in the Busch series with a Bonnie!
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I agree the track is the best place for speed. But some of us like to go fast for longer than 1/4 of a mile. I would love to race in the Busch series with a Bonnie!
That is why we say to make sure to TRY to do things like this on a track if possible. If you can't find a track long enough to do so, make sure it is a long, straight, deserted, smooth stretch of road.
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I agree the track is the best place for speed. But some of us like to go fast for longer than 1/4 of a mile. I would love to race in the Busch series with a Bonnie!
That is why we say to make sure to TRY to do things like this on a track if possible. If you can't find a track long enough to do so, make sure it is a long, straight, deserted, smooth stretch of road.
Hey slick, I'm not gonna get on you about going fast. After all, I once did 135 in a base-model Taurus.(NOT recommended, and it took forever to get it up there)
Just please be careful.
BTW, if you feel like having fun in a controlled environment, wait til spring. You're pretty close to this place:
http://www.midohio.com/
Not sure what their rules are on hand controls, but I know they'll have some kind of allowance for them.
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thanx for the elder guidance guys. got bashed at clubgp.com so im done with that forum. kinda blew up a lil. and not to justify it at all but im not just a stupid kid wit a fast car. i will have my associates degree in Automotive Technology in 2 more semesters. then im tranferring to Ferris State in MI. i have also worked at several shops as a Tech since i was 15(until i got in my accident in 06'). and no not just a "lube" tech, i did everything. i have a newer low mileage car with all of the BEST parts on it with Eagle F1'* (160+ speed rating) that have carbon fiber side walls. do every upkeep on the car. i took every precaution besides the chance that anything can happen that u cant change. ive topped out all the cars ive owned at the same spot i did that(4 lanes late at night with no thru traffic). had a 94' Stealth and 94' SHO. just hadda do it once with this one too. and thats y i got it on video, so i dont do it again. sry to get things sorta "heated". if i new ppl woulda got upset, i woulda kept it to myself.
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Many of us have had problems with CGP. That'* EXACTLY the reason this Forum was created.

To clarify some points:



Most of us mod our cars to make them QUICKER, not necessarily faster.

Most of us make our runs on VERY deserted or abandoned roads we're very familiar with. (My favorite is an abandoned 10-mile stretch in Eastern Oregon, but I have to carefully inspect the entire run, and kick rocks and junk off the road.....2 check passes first at slow speeds, then one at 100, then go for it, but haven't been out there in a couple years).

I personally have a limit of 125 mph if I have a passenger. If it'* my kids in the car, or even my dog, that limit drops dramatically. Never more than 100.

I once lost a wheel weight decellerating back down through 125 (from a 137 run to test the removal of the limiter) and it was a VERY spooky situation. If it had happened at a faster speed, I could very well have lost control.

There'* a HUGE difference between 125 and 150mph. Trust me. I'm still missing an ******* sized chunk of leather from my driver'* seat bottom from 2 years ago. My doctor had a good chuckle when he removed it from my .

Yes, our cars hold up well. We had a 2k owner/member here crash at 130 and walk away with 11k in damage to his car. But that was pure luck.

TIRES. It'* not just the speed rating, it'* alot more. Tread design and sidewall design (most important is the sidewall from my experience) have more to do with it.

For the record, we can't judge the location or safety of a vid that only shows the gauges, but it'* a pretty sure bet that this time of year, there aren't very many safe places to do that, especially at night.
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