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Old 09-05-2012, 08:02 PM   #1
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Default 96 Park Ave stumbling at 1500-1700 RPM

Fellow GM Guys: I have been having trouble with my 1996 Buick Park Ave when going up a slight upgrade on the highway and stumbling while at a light load @ 1500 - 1700 RPM. I'm looking for any additional ideas in what to check.
Here'* the history of what'* been done - Found that two of the coil banks where missing, so I replaced the Ignition Module and all three coils, Plugs (NGK Iridiums) are only 15 months old, wires replaced about 5 months ago, fuel pump and fuel filter replaced about 7 months ago, cleaned the MAF, checked and cleaned the EGR, replaced the PVC about 2 months ago.
Latest: I found that one of the plugs was missing when revving the engine to 1500-1700 RPM - replaced the plug, but now others are missing. I've replaced all of the plugs with Bosch 9601 Iridiums, and found that the NGK'* gap has increased from 0.060" to 0.062". I understand the Bosch plugs are a hotter plug then the NGKs.. I gapped the Bosch plugs to 0.060" - required gapping out of the box... So far, so good. I'll keep you informed.
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Don't use Bosch plugs. Even they admit their plugs don't work well in 3800'*. Go back to the cheap A/C delco 606'*.
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good if its the sc engine but my non sc ones never run good on resistor plugs and they wear out fast. platinum or better. ive been running e3'* for probably 10-15k, first in my 3800 bonnie but probably the 4rth set ive bought theve lasted longer than ive had the car every time
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good if its the sc engine but my non sc ones never run good on resistor plugs and they wear out fast. platinum or better. ive been running e3'* for probably 10-15k, first in my 3800 bonnie but probably the 4rth set ive bought theve lasted longer than ive had the car every time
Agreed, I have only used these AC Delco'*, but I hear NGK, and E3'* are good, I am pretty sure the AC Delco Iridium were in the car when it was manufactured.

ACDelco 41-101 Professional Iridium Spark Plug,Pack of 1 : Amazon.com : Automotive ACDelco 41-101 Professional Iridium Spark Plug,Pack of 1 : Amazon.com : Automotive
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i believe original was delco platinum at least in my car. you can get the e3'* for 4.80 at advance auto with the p20 in the cart and pick up in store.
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How are those E3'* anyway?
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03 monte 3400 i put them in place of the delco plat. and msd wires at 100k ran as good as it did new and gained 1 to 2 mpg, ran that way till i sold it at 170k

03 imp 3400 (my moms but i do the maint) exact same result but she still has it

98 bonnie non-sc put them in last year had 2 sets of autolite plat. in it between 100k and 160, never really ran like new when it had the delcos so i put the e3'* in it and it smoothed out and went back to normal mileage maybe slightly better. with a lead foot and a K&N drop in the wife gets 28 in rural two lane only commute.

i put them in a bunch of small lawn equipment and the change in starting and smoothness is dramatic especially in my stihl chainsaw
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Duly noted Justin. Thanks for the info. Maybe I'll upgrade.
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