Alright with my paycheck tommorow I will have enough to get some Ported Exhaust Manifolds.

Should I get those or be patient and get headers?

http://www.zzperformance.com/product...4cc04dd2a1d4c5

These should work right?

What are the horsepower gain differences? PEMS Vs headers?

PEM'* will have some decent gains, headers will be alot, and will go a lot further down the road mod wise.

How far do you wanna go to this car?

Well

I was going for a $1500 budget

But Damn you guys. Now I want to be in the 14'* or maybe even the 13'*. Fast Bonnevilles are cool

So I dont care what I spend now.

If your shooting for 13'* your going to need headers. If 14'* is good enough for you then don't waste 100'* more on headers.

I agree. Headers will be a frivolous waste of money if you don't output the power to fully take advantage of them.

i hear you all and you all say don't get the headers unless you will use it.

what you are forgetting to add is . . .

Once you get the performance modding bug, you won't be able to stop very easy. sure, sure, it all starts innocent enough . . .

i'll just get the CAI/FWI and the chip

a few months pass - okay now i am ready for the rockers. After all, i heard you can use stock manifolds with those.

then you are wishing you had more, and more, and more . . .

ask around there are a few of us who are hooked and desprately scrounging pennies and planning our next "best" mod.



Go with the Headers and you won't be sorry! i am, Hey look i just found another penny! only 69,999 more to go!

Yeah man

All I was going to do was exhaust and intake.

Now Im going for a 13 second car.

For god sakes I took out my rear steel bumber beam support to save a lousy 25 pounds.

Im sure glad I found this forum

To get an N/A car into the 13'* your going to need a cam. I suggest the headers if thats your goal.

Like everyone said above, if you are very serious about modding, go with the headers. They flow much better.

However, the bang for the buck you get with PEM'* are great. I am very happy with my Pector PEM'*. They are top notch.

You can get into the 13'* without a Super Charger?

I was intending on getting a ZZP one