non sc engine swap to a sc car - GM Forum - Buick, Cadillac, Chev, Olds, GMC & Pontiac chat


Performance, Brainstorming & Tuning Talk about modifications, or anything else associated with performance enhancements. Have a new idea for performance/reliability? Post it here. No idea is stupid! (please use Detailing and Appearance for cosmetic ideas)

Reply
 
 
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 04-18-2010, 09:43 PM   #1
Member
Posts like a V-Tak
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 64
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
chevelle_6969 is on a distinguished road
Default non sc engine swap to a sc car

i know its been asked a thousand times but dont see anything similiar to my needs, ive got a 94 ssei with a blown engine, i got a great deal on a reman engine designed for a non super charged car, could i use the new engine just adding my supercharger? what if any problems will i create?
also i have the chance to buy a used sc engine from a 93.. ive been told from the junkyard that many parts would need changing, are they that different? what needs changing and why? which option is more feasable? i already have the vin L reman in my possesion. thank you for your thoughts ..
chevelle_6969 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-18-2010, 09:53 PM   #2
DINOSAURUS BOOSTUS

Expert Gearhead
 
BillBoost37's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Enfield, CT
Posts: 41,391
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
BillBoost37 is a glorious beacon of lightBillBoost37 is a glorious beacon of lightBillBoost37 is a glorious beacon of lightBillBoost37 is a glorious beacon of lightBillBoost37 is a glorious beacon of lightBillBoost37 is a glorious beacon of light
Default

Being the S1 stuff, I'm not as familiar. I'd suggest taking a look at the various connectors and seeing if the knock sensors etc are in different locations. I think there were differences. Not sure if they were material enough to cause a problem though.
BillBoost37 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2010, 09:47 AM   #3
Member
Posts like a V-Tak
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 64
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
chevelle_6969 is on a distinguished road
Default

any thoughts on the reman engine being used with the supercharger
chevelle_6969 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2010, 10:24 AM   #4
DINOSAURUS BOOSTUS

Expert Gearhead
 
BillBoost37's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Enfield, CT
Posts: 41,391
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
BillBoost37 is a glorious beacon of lightBillBoost37 is a glorious beacon of lightBillBoost37 is a glorious beacon of lightBillBoost37 is a glorious beacon of lightBillBoost37 is a glorious beacon of lightBillBoost37 is a glorious beacon of light
Default

The piston rods aren't the same and may or may not handle the added pressures. Tough to give a clear or concise answer w/o having tried it.
BillBoost37 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2010, 11:13 AM   #5
Senior Member
True Car Nut
 
xtremerevolution's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: New Lenox, IL
Posts: 2,478
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
xtremerevolution is on a distinguished road
Default

You cannot use an L27 and bolt on a supercharger. It has been tried, and failed. Your bottom end will fail, guaranteed. Both the rods and the pistons on the supercharged model are stronger than on the non-supercharged one. You *might* get 50k miles out of it if you drive it easy, but at that point, what'* the point of having a supercharger anyway.

A non supercharged series 1 (L27) will take abuse for 200k+ miles. I would know, I have 214k miles on mine, and just recently replaced my cylinder heads because I burned a valve while hitting 4800rpm for 5 minutes straight up a colorado mountain with a heavy load in my car. Oops...
xtremerevolution is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2010, 11:41 AM   #6
Member
Posts like a V-Tak
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 64
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
chevelle_6969 is on a distinguished road
Default

thank you that is what i was looking for, i would not have drove it easy, so it would have failed for sure, so will the 93 engine be a good bet? they are only asking 300, with no idea of miles on the engine
chevelle_6969 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2010, 12:54 PM   #7
Senior Member
True Car Nut
 
xtremerevolution's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: New Lenox, IL
Posts: 2,478
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
xtremerevolution is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by chevelle_6969 View Post
thank you that is what i was looking for, i would not have drove it easy, so it would have failed for sure, so will the 93 engine be a good bet? they are only asking 300, with no idea of miles on the engine
The N/A 93 engine? Does it have a white intake or a black intake?

The reason why I ask is because the newer (94 and 95 for regals) L27'* have a smaller rocker bolt size of 5/16" instead of the older 3/8", and come with roller rockers from the factory, but the older owes have aluminum intakes instead of plastic ones, which are much less prone to warping and leaking coolant around the throttle body passages.

$300 is a bit of a stretch unless it comes with a transmission. We're talking about old and generally undesirable engines here. A guy on here offered me an 85k mile 1993 white intake motor from a lesabre for $200.
xtremerevolution is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2010, 01:01 PM   #8
Member
Posts like a V-Tak
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 64
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
chevelle_6969 is on a distinguished road
Default

ill have to ask the guy at the yard about the intake, was thinking 93 had plastic intake also, the motor is 250 miles away, was planning on going tomorrow...which means i better call and find out today, thanks
chevelle_6969 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2010, 01:06 PM   #9
Senior Member
True Car Nut
 
xtremerevolution's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: New Lenox, IL
Posts: 2,478
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
xtremerevolution is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by chevelle_6969 View Post
ill have to ask the guy at the yard about the intake, was thinking 93 had plastic intake also, the motor is 250 miles away, was planning on going tomorrow...which means i better call and find out today, thanks
Does it come with a warranty? A motor without a mileage like that could come with a lot of problems, especially if it had been overheated or neglected. You can go from stuck lifters to a warped intake, to leaking gaskets, and whatever else.

Might also be worth noting that the engine that I was offered for $200 was fully dressed, with alternator, power steering pump, coils, icm, and everything needed to bolt it in. I ended up paying him $150 for just the heads, which are on my car right now, and the accessories.
xtremerevolution is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2010, 01:35 PM   #10
Member
Posts like a V-Tak
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 64
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
chevelle_6969 is on a distinguished road
Default

trouble is im from a small unpopulated state where these motors arent very easy to find
chevelle_6969 is offline   Reply With Quote
 
 
Reply

Related Topics
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Engine Swap with an Idle Engine Buck Pontiac Bonneville 14 07-15-2013 11:43 AM
can i swap my m90 to a non sc gt block? SPEED ADICTIONS Performance, Brainstorming & Tuning 3 05-05-2008 10:52 PM
top swap or engine swap 99bonne Performance, Brainstorming & Tuning 3 01-26-2008 08:31 PM
Differential (non-HD 3.05 to 3.29) swap questions... agrazela Performance, Brainstorming & Tuning 11 11-05-2007 06:48 PM
bolt supercharger onto non SC engine? Cookie Forced Induction 13 07-04-2005 03:12 PM


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:45 AM.


We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.