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Old 05-17-2007, 04:09 AM   #11
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There'* a certain amount of truth to what 91parkave is saying...

If you're looking to buy a "kit" intake that gives you all the parts you need, generally Intense'* FWI is the thing to buy, especially for a '92-'99. There are no good off-the-shelf kits for those years (such as K&N, AEM, Injen, etc.), and questionable kits for the '00-'05 crowd. Intense defintely has a good product, and should be considered if you're not looking to engineer anything.

However, like 91parkave is saying, there is more than one way to skin a cat. If you prefer a more rigid intake tube you can engineer an FWI out of metal tubing or some other material. Or if you don't like the idea of an FWI you can choose to rig up a cold air intake (CAI) that draws air from behind the headlight, similar to the stock airbox. I tend to prefer the idea of an under-the-hood CAI, but it varies from person to person. For the most part, the FWI setups are able to be engineered in a way that the air filter is protected from road moisture, but a few folks here have had trouble with filters getting wet.

Ultimately, don't rush it. Do your research and make a decision based on funding and what you think is best. If you want to engineer your own intake, there are certainly other filter options than K&N, as 91parkave was saying. K&N is a fabric gauze and oil design, while some newer filters use synthetic fabrics and other materials that don't rely on oil to trap dirt. Some of them claim to flow better than K&N, and there'* no oil to risk contaminating your MAF sensor. Again, do your research and make a decision based on what you find. I currently use K&N, but when I have the funds I will probably switch to an AMSOIL filter or similar design. Just some food for thought.
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ok so im ready to order, but on intense-racing.com, does the FWI that fits "98-05" cars fit the 1999 ssei, because it says it wont fit a certain motor, and the */c motor isnt listed..does this one fit?
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dude youre going to spend 180 bucks on a rubber flex tubing and a K&N filter?? i just hate to see someone overspend like that for something thats not that effective anything that dosent have a smooth transition or ripple slike the intense kit causes turbulence, thus making less HP becauce of turbulent air flowing over the MAF wires
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http://www.clubgp.com/newforum/tm.as...heck=601011377 read this now this isnt exact to your bonneville but you get the general concept all foralmost 130 bucks cheaper
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Yes, you want the 98-05 one with the PCM tray included. The intense FWI is one of the best intakes out there.
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dude youre going to spend 180 bucks on a rubber flex tubing and a K&N filter?? i just hate to see someone overspend like that for something thats not that effective anything that dosent have a smooth transition or ripple slike the intense kit causes turbulence, thus making less HP becauce of turbulent air flowing over the MAF wires
You obviously haven't read much about the INTENSE FWI on this Forum, as you have NFC what the reasons are that we love this intake. It outperforms the revered Thrasher CAI, and costs less. Your link is dead, but I bet it was to that cheap POS wizaird or the JMB.

Both have fallen to the INTENSE FWI in experienced reviews on this Forum.

There'* a HELL of alot more to the INTENSE FWI than what you describe. The tubing isn't cheap, but it'* priced for what it is. But you don't know what that is, do you?

There'* no ripple in the FWI, bud. Until you see one personally, you should choose your words more carefully. The outside of the tubing isn't what you find on the inside.



I'll give you some advice. Until you've seen as many of these as I have, and actually OWNED one (like I do, and many others here also), you should probably take a good look at your opinion on a product you really probably no nothing about, and leave the advice to those that DO know what they're talking about.
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dude youre going to spend 180 bucks on a rubber flex tubing and a K&N filter?? i just hate to see someone overspend like that for something thats not that effective anything that dosent have a smooth transition or ripple slike the intense kit causes turbulence, thus making less HP becauce of turbulent air flowing over the MAF wires
You obviously haven't read much about the INTENSE FWI on this Forum, as you have NFC what the reasons are that we love this intake. It outperforms the revered Thrasher CAI, and costs less. Your link is dead, but I bet it was to that cheap POS wizaird or the JMB.

Both have fallen to the INTENSE FWI in experienced reviews on this Forum.

There'* a H*** of alot more to the INTENSE FWI than what you describe. The tubing isn't cheap, but it'* priced for what it is. But you don't know what that is, do you?

There'* no ripple in the FWI, bud. Until you see one personally, you should choose your words more carefully. The outside of the tubing isn't what you find on the inside.

no my link wasnt to whatever youre talking about and ive been in dyno rooms when we tested this same crap last year this kid came in with a GTP and was bragging about the intense kit to make a long story short he was proved wrong on an actual dyno no one talked about the cheap stuff from intense so its obvious you have a problem with anyone saying something about intense they might be your fav. but dont mislead everybody else at least let people see both sides of this issue and every body knows the intense tubing is not smooth like pipe on the inside so dont try to play me or anyone else with that one
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91, I just saw your sewer pipe intake under your hood in another topic. I don't think you're in much of a position to talk trash about the best PROVEN performing intake here.

As an ADMINISTRATOR on this Forum, I treat all Vendors equally. The problem I have is you seeing some GTP and bashing a proven performer based on ZERO personal experience, while you're driving around sporting sewer pipe under your hood, and a paper cone filter in your exposed fenderwell. INTENSE FWI'* have been proven on the Dyno and the Track by car owners OTHER than ClubGP Intense-bashers. We know that story well here already.

I take issue with this, because believe it or not, there are occasionally members of this Forum that don't know any better, and may actually follow your lead. I care a bit more about their cars than to let that one go unchecked.

So let'* get this back on topic and suggest a quality product for the topic author that doesn't involve using sewer pipe attached to a throttle body. Since we all know how badly ABS plastic sewer pipe tends to heatsoak and prevent laminar flow because of the joints.
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Here'* the link 91parkave was trying to link to:
http://www.clubgp.com/newforum/tm.as...mode=1&smode=1

I like the idea, but I don't know how durable it will be with engine movement. The rubber adapter on the throttle body is the only flexible part, and it is not all that flexible.

Also, I've got an Intense FWI and I'm 21 flavors of happy with it.
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Is anyone here besides must me aware of how badly ABS is known to heatsoak?

And how that won't fit a Bonneville engine bay or fender?
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