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Originally Posted by 99SSEI
What'* the difference between a "Powertrain Control Module Security Relearn Procedure" and a CASE learn?
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Originally Posted by hugger10
well crap I guess I need to get a case learn then. I was wondering why my car didn't feel any faster. Oh well I used to work at the dealer so maybe they cut me some slack. At least the dam thing started up at all though.
How long to Case learns take?
How long to Case learns take?
I'm beginning to wonder if you'll need a security re-learn on your returned PCM (I wouldn't expect so; in any case, that'* a DIY)...or whether some of your problems with the '98 PCM in the '01 car have to do with that, hmmm....
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the dealer did it for $50. But I didn't notice a power difference tho.
How long is my car going to take so long to start? Ever since that Crank Relearn it takes a few turns before the car will start running.
How long is my car going to take so long to start? Ever since that Crank Relearn it takes a few turns before the car will start running.
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Wow! I called 3 GM dealerships in the area (2 of which are Pontiac specific). 1 in Glendale Hts. wanted to program the PCM back to factory and didn't comprehend what I needed done. 1 in Park Ridge knew what I needed done, but claimed they didn't have the right tool (bull crap!). Finally, Schaumburg Pontiac said they've done many cars like ours (Bonnevilles, GXP'*, GTP'*). I have appointment to see them tomorrow after work. It'll cost me 1 hour labor or 108$ plus tax. Drag!
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something isnt right now, ever since I had the dealer do the crank shaft relearn every time I start the car more than a few minutes after i shut it off it takes a few turns to get it started. but if i shut it off then start it again it starts fine. So would that be the fault of intense or the dealer?
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Originally Posted by hugger10
something isnt right now, ever since I had the dealer do the crank shaft relearn every time I start the car more than a few minutes after i shut it off it takes a few turns to get it started. but if i shut it off then start it again it starts fine. So would that be the fault of intense or the dealer?
Did you get this dealership CASE learn done on your '98 SE PCM, or on your original PCM that you sent to (and got back from) Intense?
(I am assuming the latter, even though I hate to assume :P )
I see three obvious possibilities:
1) Intense'* program just doesn't like your car.
2) The dealership did a PCM stock re-program rather than just a CASE learn, and the stock program doesn't like your mods.
3) There is something mechanically wrong with your car, probably in your ignition or fueling system (dirty injectors, bad fuel pressure regulator, wrong plugs, bad spark plug wire or coil, plugged fuel filter, etc.; maybe a simple vaccum leak somewhere)
(FWIW, my money'* on number 3) above...furthermore, I am calling out a fuel pressure/delivery issue; anyone know offhand if the 2001'* are subject to the FPR recall?)
I suggest you go over your vaccum, fuel and ignition systems with a fine tooth comb to make sure there'* no mechanical issues...I'm assuming if you were throwing codes, you'd have said so...
Meanwhile, confirm exactly what the dealership did to your PCM...
I hope you find a mechanical problem, because you are in kind of a bind otherwise...as I see it, you either have no "fallback" stock PCM, or you have an Intense PCM that'* been "wiped" back to stock by the dealer.
EDIT: I posted this while hugger was starting his new thread...
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After talking with INTENSE, it was discovered that the change in shift points (from 5200 to 6k) was put under the standard table and not the performance shift table. I'm sending the PCM back for re-program tonight. After I get it back, then I can have CASE learn done.