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Old 12-31-1969, 08:00 PM   #1
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ok guys i need some quick help im racing my friends montcarlo and i doubt i can win but im gonna try. any way what can i do to beat this guy?
should i take out my headlight?
im taking out my spare jack and sub n box
what else should i do
im putting a new fuel filter in and im gonna grab a bag of ice to cool down teh intake
i was thinking of cutting a hole in my exhaust after the cat cause i can always weld it back together. i figure thatll remove some backpressure.
I was lookig for a throttle body but it wont come in time for the race. my main prob is my rims are really heavy and i dont know anyone with lighter rims.

but any help would be great.
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WOW! You really want to beat this guy! Are u racing him for $$$ or just for bragging rights? Personally I woulden't be putting any holes in my exhaust, but if u must why not cut it just in front of the cat take the rest of it right off. Should flow awesome, and u will save a few lbs. Take out whatever u don't need...pass seat, back seat. Gas is heavy, try to have as little as possible, just make sure u don't run out Pump up the rear tires to 45 PSI...less rolling resistance. Hope this helps...let us know what happens!

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Is cutting apart your exhaust really worth it? If so, why not just disconnect the downpipe from the manifold? No welding or cutting required. Sure, you might need to do something about the hot exhaust gasses, but at least you won't be mutilating the car.

Looking at car-stats.com, your two cars look at least reasonably matched. I'd guess that driver skill will be more of a factor than any gains from removing most of the exhaust system. To that end: Practice, practice, practice!

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First question is, when is this race? What kind of Monte Carlo? A newer one that is a SS w/ the 3.8L or a regular w/ the 3.4L. Either way the Monte Carlo'* are slower with the 3.4L and not as quick with the SS since they have so many options in the car.

Lauchhing helps, hold on to your brake and bring your tach up to ~2k rpm, our torque converter is not too shabby stock, that way you can get a jump on him/her. But be careful because your wheels could hop and your done for.

Reducing backpressure will result in better up top but you will lose some low end but overall it will help you quite a bit. But if you cut a hole, your car will fart while you have the hole in there and if you cut it it will be open exhaust and a 3.8L open exhaust will be heard far away. (I had a wagon w/ 2L open exhaust and I set off car alarms 2 parking lot aisles over). But the Monte Carlo person might notice if you did something to the exhaust...

And yeah... the stock wheels help keep the front down but it also equals greater rotating mass so its pro/con. I think going to lighter wheels helps and for brake cooling too but that'* just me.

And the other suggestions got everything else like tires pressure, weight, etc. And race them on the fwy while you are at it...

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Im racing my friends 88 motnecarloss
373 gears headers/ openelement, crappy carb
2000 stall rwd but only 180 hp and 220 trq so were pretty even but i think he might win but itll be interesting none the less.

I am finishing my ram air setup for my car and itll help a little but im not expecting anything.
I also made a heat shield for the header pipe under the throttle body so thatll help a little.
my ram iar setup is dryer heat flex tube under the can and it runs up behind the headlight into the airfilter area.
i also put screens on the front covers to help from debris comming into the tubes.


I am thinking about cuttin the resonator out of my exhaust system to help on back pressure but i wonder how much louder its going to be with it removed????
if anyone has done this let me know. I can always replace it with straight pipe or replace the resonator wheni return from the trip.
thanks for all your help ill let ya know how it turns out
btw im racing at english town nj march 27th


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btw im racing for bragging rights. if it was for money i wouldve chosen a different car lol
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throw in a quick/cheap dry nitrous system if your really that worried.

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