I emailed Hedman and maybe if all of us emailed them they would make headers for our cars. But someone would have to live by them so they could probably borrow it to fabricate a set.
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We need people that are interest in the exhaust system for these cars that live in the Whittier area.

The Hedman Hedders Tech Team
----- Original Message -----
From: MPJ1969@aol.com
To: TECHSUPPORT@HEDMAN.COM
Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 7:30 PM
Subject: Re: headers for 3800 seriesII


Subject: headers for 3800 seriesII


If you make headers for honda civics with 1.5L engines than why dont you make headers for these engines? examples are Monte Carlo SS supercharged, Bonneville SSEi, Grand Prix GTP. The only two manufactures I see are SLP and THE OTHER GUYS. They both want outrageous amounts for them.
Please look into this.
Thank You,
Mark Johnson

In a message dated 7/26/2004 4:07:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, TECHSUPPORT@HEDMAN.COM writes:
Because we actually need the vehicles for it.They also have to be CARB approved


----- Original Message -----
From: MPJ1969@aol.com
To: TECHSUPPORT@HEDMAN.COM
Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 8:30 AM
Subject: Re: headers for 3800 seriesII
Do you mean you dont have any vehicles to test it on? or do you mean you need people to actually own vehicles like Grand Prix'*, Bonneville'* and Monte Carlo'* to be interested in headers for their cars? Isnt carb approved only for one state?
Thanks and really appreciate an honest reply,
Mark Johnson

it would be awsome if hedman were to make some . . . they sell decent headers at a much better price than we see for our stuff now.

Hmm, yea, the more competition and quantity the lower the prices will be.

i just sent them an email to express my interest . . . maybe if a few more of us do this they will move to develop it on their own faster. i even suggested that they take a look at the other guys and SLP headers for an example. copying a competitor may not be completely legal or ethical but i am sure it is done all the time!

or email them to see if a GP is in their area. chances are one is.

You guys know about www.sandsheaders.com right?
There alot cheaper than TOG'* and SLP'*.

Yup. *&* have been talked about here. I think we have a couple running them.

The *&* Headers have the O2 bung on the tube that connects the crossover to the rear header. In this case, the O2 only reads from the front bank.

Some would argue this isn't anything to be concerned about while others think it won't give accurate readings. Funny (odd) thing is that about 90% of cases where the top ring land has broken off the pistons, it'* been on the front bank.

The crossover pipe is smaller than the SLP and TOG offerings, though on the street this will give excellent low rpm throttle response.

Cheers,

i had not heard of www.sandsheaders.com. does anyone know how their product is? is anyone running them?

Hummm i didn't know about that. :?