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Old 02-25-2006, 02:19 AM   #11
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I agree with a couple other people even If you gut the box it is still gonna be restricted.

You could go with a fenderwell.

Personally I don't like the look of the fenderwell. I prefer the look of the open air filter residing in a custom box made of plexi, or lexan. They are not that hard to make and it gives it a nice hiss, with the engine running . This is just my opinion.

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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAck! NO rice pipe on a new northstar engine/ OEM box is staying , I can use a hole saw in three front corners with a wire mesh to keep out debris. Plenty of flow I'm sure just have to get top off and see how to go about it . Also I read over and over the, oil used on cone filters burns out N* maff sensors fast
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAck! NO rice pipe on a new northstar engine/ OEM box is staying , I can use a hole saw in three front corners with a wire mesh to keep out debris. Plenty of flow I'm sure just have to get top off and see how to go about it . Also I read over and over the, oil used on cone filters burns out N* maff sensors fast
We're not talking a rice pipe. A FWI is totally different. And the MAF sensor will be fine as long as you don't over-oil the filter. We've heard horror stories for 3 years here about that, but have yet to see a single instance of MAF burnout from it. It'* rare, and the owner'* fault every time.
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Agree,
and youll get the best performance out of the Fender well intake.

Heres mine, custom made:
http://www.fileshack.us/files/view/782/enginebay.JPG

or you can buy one at intense.
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Sorry for getting scared and burying my head in the sand. I thought for sure we were talking a rice pipe/ my apologies. Does Intense sell a pretty good looking one?
And what would I do with the maff sensor thats in airbox on my model.

Didnt mean to be rude or sound know it all, It'* just to the money I put into car and what I'm spending on customizing leaves me nervous about engine compartment modifacations . I want to maximize power, but I want to leave engine compartment clean and professional looking. I appreciate your help and already learning alot here.
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ive talked may be too fast, i dont know if intense make one for the 2005 bonneville, but it should fit.

Making one is not hard at all. i kept my stock rubber that hold the IAT.

the MAF is not on the fender well intake system, or any other CAI. Just the IAT.

Some relocate it directly in the filter, because they remove the big rubber coupler.


Keeping the rubber make it simple, you just need to fit your fender well intake and the filter. I did mine with ABS piping.

Look here for the Intense fender well intake: http://www.intense-racing.com

go to: Intense store/ GM 3800 serie II& III / Induction & fuel system

then scroll down to 2005 model, youll see how they look. Cant be cleaner than that, let a lot of free space.
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Thanks for your input Mike and I'll check out Intense'* site... Shows what I know about these sensors.
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I went out and measured the width between theTB and the fender well. 10 Inches....minus the width of the nitrous plate I'm having machined. Nothing in the way but the airbox which I would love to just remove for alot of space for others things. >There is zilch room for mounting valves/ selenoids/ relay boxes for the nitrous setup and the lit purging tube I'm trying to marry.

Can I move the sensor at end of airbox closer to the TB and put cone filter directly in front of the sensor with a piece of CPVC and rubber boot? It would look neat and effiecient. With the nitrous injection I wont need the air cold, just more air. Thanks
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Not sure about what youre talking about nitrous, a way of water injection?

or nitrous power adder?


If the filter is in the engine bay, be prepared to lost performance over the stock setup in summer.
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I'm putting a wet nitrous oxide jet in spacer being made to fit between the plenum and TB. The kit comes from Holley/NOS. How come everytime I mention nitrous, people leave? Sorry I dont have and cant put a */C on. I 'd hate to put a bent pipe on a naturally aspirated engine.((90 degrees of total bend = 30 % reduction in flow regardless of application: Industrial, heating, or automotive)...... So I should keep the sensor on the filter side of intake and get it as close to fresh air as possible.......?
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