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Old 06-03-2004, 12:45 PM   #11
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Are we gonna get started on the Si argument again.

Funny, havent heard people complain about the amount of sand that their intakes take in

K&N is fine, stick with what you know and be done with it
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its not the filter'* longevity that conerns me, its the amount of Si that it lets into the engine.

in short, they trade filtering efficiency for flow, something i dont like for my car.
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The oil on the filter traps the various particles, thats why they are oiled. If you let them go to the point where the oil is ineffective then sure, your going to get crap through those large holes. As I said, its all about upkeep.
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its not the filter'* longevity that conerns me, its the amount of Si that it lets into the engine.

in short, they trade filtering efficiency for flow, something i dont like for my car.
hi again lght1.

Here we go again, unfortunately. I've been using K&N Filters in all my cars and motorcycles since 1983. Silicon was never a problem, nor was longevity or performance of any of my engines.

What do the pro'* use? K&N. If the airhogs perform much the same, or close, for less money, go for it. This type of filter is a proven performer, with no PROVEN adverse effects. If you're paranoid about silicon injestion, drive your car in a vacuum chamber with a standalone clean oxygen source. The last time you came up with this argument, it turned into a very heated debate. You on one hand with no proof, and everyone else with years of experience. I suggest you drop it.
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I suggest you do a UOA..and post it.

I should be very interested to see how yours compares with the vast majority of UOA done with other peoples cars using same engine. Most are poor.

The filter/oil combo doesnt trap the SI....thats the problem.
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I have done UOA'*. Quite regularly. I've been doing extended oil life testing with Mobil1. Up to 8k miles now, with no adverse effects. My 8k UOA was lower in all contaminants than the 'average' dino juice 3k change. ALL contaminants.

Have you ever seen an engine fail from silicon injestion?



Your paranoia amazes me. Stick with the paper filters and the stant radiator caps for your peace of mind, but don't spread your paranoia to members here with little or no evidence to back it up.

We want to see DOCUMENTED FAILURES caused by a K&N. Specifically with regards to Si injestion.

Show me the Money, Jerry.
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Only staff and gearheads may post additional comments to clarify any issues that may have been presented here.

Sorry for the digression on this topic (again), please feel free to start another post regarding the airhogs. I'd like to see that.
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Experience over time is the true test.
I have used these types of air filters on my cars for many years and have not had any bad effects on engine wear. Only good benefits as claimed.
Two vehicles I still own are 16 and 25 years old and I've used an oiled K&N in both since new. Both have like new compression and the oldest I have torn down 5 years ago and shows virtually no wear.
My SSEi runs well with a similar *&B unit but I need to be careful with the oil not coating the MAF sensor unlike the older cars which don't have one.
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do you just hang around reading posts every day hoping for one on K&N'*??? I swear they are the only ones that you ever post about.
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K&N'* and Stant radiator caps. He'* on a mission, apparently.

Things seem to have settled down a bit. To get back on topic, has anyone actually physically handled an AirHog yet? Are they similar to a K&N? What are they made of?
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They seemed to have longer pleats from what i've seen so far.

I've seen some info on how oiled filters will generally not filter as well as normal ones. But to me it was a small enough difference not to worry. The filter is enclosed in the engine bay...

People have their opinions, so let them have it, this censorship is a bit much IMO....
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