I must have misunderstood before. I thought that you gained HP, but lost torque with headers. Now I'm confused.

Ordered my Silver ceramic TOG'* today baby! Made date with my installer, last Saturday of THIS MONTH!!!!
"Duff man says, OOHHH YAAAA!!!"

I know you will love them Taylor.
They made as noticeable a difference on my car in seat of the pants feel....ie. torque...as the smaller pulley.
Burn baby, burn...

Well, no, not really. Yes, with a smaller pulley the torque gains will be larger, as with a cam and rockers, but on a stock GTP with just headers it gained 16hp & 18ft.lbs at the wheels. No pulley change or anything...just the headers. Thrasher used to have the dyno sheet and everything from it up on their site, but they have since re-designed the site and now it says up to 25hp gain on a stock car. Heres a link: http://www.thrashercharged.com/store...t_headers.shtm Headers AND a smaller pulley will make an even larger difference.

On an N/A 3.8 though, I am pretty sure you lose torque.

Shawn

I got it boxed up and will send it out tomorrow. The shipping is'nt much and now all I want is a hat and a local news paper, cause I'm a collector.

Its in good shape and doesnt look like it has 100k on it.

Fair deal.
Thanks for telling me you collect hats. I'll bring you a gift to Albany meet.
....or do you collect newspapers.

im lost...