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Old 04-03-2007, 08:51 PM   #41
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I think you'd be happy with any intake TBH. Even some 3800 cars running 12'* and faster use basic looking FWI'* or CAI'* ... some with just open cones.
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Old 04-03-2007, 08:57 PM   #42
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I think you'd be happy with any intake TBH. Even some 3800 cars running 12'* and faster use basic looking FWI'* or CAI'* ... some with just open cones.
just because someone is using something doesnt mean its the best option...
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2k guys FWI definetly. It'* a match made in heaven..
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Wow i didnt know this post would generate so much interest, i really agree that the jmb should be given a little more chance and testing. I will post pics and results of my jmb on the gs even though its a w body. I think the thread gives people a few more options though if you dont want the intense fwi.
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i realize that one example of the JMB is not enough to smash the guy about.. BUT with the 3.4" pulley the OEM airbox produced less KR than the JMB then you have to be skeptical
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i realize that one example of the JMB is not enough to smash the guy about.. BUT with the 3.4" pulley the OEM airbox produced less KR than the JMB then you have to be skeptical
i agree Toasty, While the JMB is a nice looking Intake i dont give a care what the hell it looks like if it dosent perform

i would put a small midigits pink pants on my engine, if that gives the optimal performance im gonna use it....and also on the other hand....just cause it looks nice, dosent mean that its the best

I have a Very strong opinion here that with the results of the test car, not many are gonna spend the money (much more than the Intense FWI) only to have possible problems with the JMB, and likewise with the Thrasher, ya they made a CAI for us, but why spend something more that dosent give the maxium gain.......dosent make $$$cents$$$ to me
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Jim, the INTENSE tubing isn't corrugated. It has performed VERY well for dozens of cars here. It is vastly superior to any aluminum or off-the-shelf CAI design. It was specifically designed originally for the 2000 Bonneville.

IMO (backed up by lots of experience, testing, and comparison) a FWI is the #1 option, bar none for a 2k or newer Bonneville. Keep in mind that while I only recently bought the INTENSE components to create a S1 kit, I've had experience with the FWI'* in the past at meets in the heat of summer.

Go FWI.
Maybe I'm being too wordy, it just seems everyone is missing my point.

There'* no doubt in my mind I'm going FWI. In my mind, there'* 2 choices for the tubing used:

INTENSE'* "wavy" hose or

an ADTR like completely smooth wall.

For all the hype and reverence and testing that was done with the ADTR tubing, it seems that it is the better choice to use as a FWI.

FWI, definitely. But which tube to use? Are we now to assume that since the JMB tube "heat soaked", then so did the ADTR?

Or, if the ADTR tube didn't heat soak, why does the JMB tube heat soak?
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i realize that one example of the JMB is not enough to smash the guy about.. BUT with the 3.4" pulley the OEM airbox produced less KR than the JMB then you have to be skeptical
For any adequate testing, there has to be a testing "group" and a control "group". Why? Because with one, there are still too many variables that could have lent to the results.

To be adequately tested, a stocke vehicle has to measure KR with the box, with a CAI, with INTENSE'* intake, with JMB intake. Then the same with the 3.4" pulley with supporting mods. Then the same with a 3.2" with supporting mods. The same was done with others' FWI'*, alot more extensive.

Again I ask: If the ADTR tube didn't heat soak, why does the JMB tube heat soak?
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i realize that one example of the JMB is not enough to smash the guy about.. BUT with the 3.4" pulley the OEM airbox produced less KR than the JMB then you have to be skeptical
For any adequate testing, there has to be a testing "group" and a control "group". Why? Because with one, there are still too many variables that could have lent to the results.

To be adequately tested, a stocke vehicle has to measure KR with the box, with a CAI, with INTENSE'* intake, with JMB intake. Then the same with the 3.4" pulley with supporting mods. Then the same with a 3.2" with supporting mods. The same was done with others' FWI'*, alot more extensive.

Again I ask: If the ADTR tube didn't heat soak, why does the JMB tube heat soak?

maybe they are made of different materials or different thicknesses. question? if you have your air filter in the right location to suck in cold air, would heat soak still be an issue? I mean, the air coming though the tubing moves fast enough that heat transfer to the air would be minimal.
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i realize that one example of the JMB is not enough to smash the guy about.. BUT with the 3.4" pulley the OEM airbox produced less KR than the JMB then you have to be skeptical
For any adequate testing, there has to be a testing "group" and a control "group". Why? Because with one, there are still too many variables that could have lent to the results.

To be adequately tested, a stocke vehicle has to measure KR with the box, with a CAI, with INTENSE'* intake, with JMB intake. Then the same with the 3.4" pulley with supporting mods. Then the same with a 3.2" with supporting mods. The same was done with others' FWI'*, alot more extensive.

Again I ask: If the ADTR tube didn't heat soak, why does the JMB tube heat soak?

maybe they are made of different materials or different thicknesses. question? if you have your air filter in the right location to suck in cold air, would heat soak still be an issue? I mean, the air coming though the tubing moves fast enough that heat transfer to the air would be minimal.
Apparently so, enought that the JMB FWI caused more KR on ONE car.
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