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Old 11-07-2002, 09:59 PM   #1
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Alrighty, thought as a new member of the community that I'd throw out an idea for the SSEi/SSE boys to kick around.

Roots and Screw type blowers are quite possibly the least heat effecient forms of forced induction on the face of the planet. Because they "recycle" the heat from the engine. So, why not convert to a Centrifugal type blower and run ported N/A intakes.

That would also allow one to run a Big Ole Air to Air Intercooler up front in the nose. Honestly for the power gains it would be pretty cheap. I'm not sure what "factory" style intercoolers would fit up there, but from an initial glance I think I could fit a Baby-NPR sized IC infront of my A/C Condensor.

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I too have thought about that... I wanted to use Vortech */C.. but like you said I would have to get an N/A plenum.. and either fabricate a long shaft to reach the */C on the driver side.. or customize the TB to be on the other side..
I would do it if I could afford another engine/tranny just in case something was to give out from the experiment.
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An intake would have to be made. Or the firebird aluminum one would have to be modded. You might be able to get an old series 1 unit to work on a series2 I doubt it though.

Well look into zz performance they have a kit for the non sc

Duck is on the right track though and duck seems to know a lot about the ken bell product line.

Lee performance mentioned a particular unit that was small and had great output. I will dig up his response and post it.
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Do you have a link for zz performance?
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Has anybody gotten this kit yet or no. Also are you good friends with them, Im interested in seeing some actual dyno results, especially on the Stage II and III. If they are satisfying I guess it would be time to start saving up my money and making a total sleeper.
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Well if you ran a air to air intercooler then you would not need to make any kind of custom throttle body because the intercooler would naturaly end on the driverside of the motor where the TB is. You would need a lot of custom ducting to do it but that is not that expensive and I am sure one of the procharger intercoolers could be modified to work on the bonne.
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Actually for an intercooler you can have them end on the same side, intercoolers have been around for many many years. They have it figured out. And it'* better to custom make an intercooler using a Spearco core and then just get the right sizing for you application and the right endtanks. ADTR will start developing an L36 Turbo Kit.
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What about mounting a centrif. kit off a bracket on the motor to where the battery is, and relocating that to the trunk or something? I guess I'm just not to fond of ZZ'* way of running that huge shaft across the front of the motor. I understand the logic behind it, and the space constraints, I just hate the idea. Also, zz'* kit is WAAAAAY overpriced. Who the hell wants to spend that kind of money?

Also, I havent been to the forums in a while, but whats with everyone starting their own performance company? Lee Performance (I'm assuming skza?), Domestic Performance, Duck Performance, etc.. I guess I might as well jump on the bandwagon to then. If I ever get these sub-frame connectors done I'll sell them under "Terminator Performance".

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Different “lee” performance. The system was made this way for good reasons but your idea is an excellent one. Consider how it would mount though. You don’t want the sc to be attached to the frame or body and the engine to be free. This could cause some serious problems that could be solved but would rob alot of hp.
Still a great idea. Borg Warner makes an excellent centrifugal sc that is smaller and equal or better than current options. Look around you will see what I mean.

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