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Old 09-29-2005, 03:27 PM   #1
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I found a performance shop in San Diego and inquired about a cam installation and got this as a reply

"Hi John -- You're probably looking at 14 to 18 hours of labor, since it
requires removing and re-installing the engine. On your Bonneville, the air
conditioning, power steering and cruise control may cause interference and
require additional labor. Our labor rate is $90 per hour. Which camshaft are
you considering? Do you know whether or not it is smog-legal (in other
words, is it covered by an exemption order issued by the California Air
Resources Board?)? Legally, we can't install non-smog legal parts on
emission controlled vehicles. What goals are you trying to achieve with this
upgrade? Look forward to your reply.

Bruce Tucker
JBA Racing"

So Im figuring $1000+ for a Cam install, do you really have to remove the engine?
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All I know is that on a Grand Prix you can do it by going through the passenger side fenderwell and by dropping the motor down just a enought to slide it in and out. I don't know if that'* possible on the Bonnie'*.
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Im pretty sure ive seen pics where they put in the cam with the motor still in but im pretty sure its a lot easier to do with the motor out. Really the motor isnt that hard to pull, cause you can leave the tranny in the car and pull the motor out the top.
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The cam install can be done in the car buy droppping the p/* engine cradle a few inches.
Here'* when I did my install:
http://www.bonnevilleclub.com/forum/...=228028#228028

If anyone is serious about doing a cam install them selves on a L36 or L67 and needs ANY help pm me.
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Thanks man and thanks for the HV instructions.

I got quoted for $400 in some shop in San Francisco, still a bit too far. I dont think I want to tackle a cam just yet.
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what kind of shop is this that is charging $90/hr
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I got quoted for $400 in some shop in San Francisco, still a bit too far. I dont think I want to tackle a cam just yet.
400 bucks is not all that bad a price really.
A cam would be an all day project for most people unless they've done several before. Still for someone schooled in doing it, it would be a 6 hr job at least.
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The engine definately doesn't have to be pulled to change the cam. Some people drop the cradle to pull the cam out instead. Personally, I drill a hole in the fenderwell and pull the cam out without pulling the engine or dropping the cradle. Then when I put the new cam in, I rivet on a piece of aluminum over the hole i drilled and paint it with undercoating and you can barely even tell it was done even if you're looking for it. $400 is a decent price to have someone do it and I can't really see you getting it installed by someone else for much cheaper, but if you are pretty well mechanically inclined you can get a few different write ups on clubgp for it then you should have no problem doing it yourself in a weekend.

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Still for someone schooled in doing it, it would be a 6 hr job at least.
For someone that has done cam swaps before and does work on cars regularly 6hrs. would be a reasonable time to change the cam in, but it is very possible to do it much quicker. The president of the MI GP club can do a cam swap in ~2hrs, and he pulls the engine when he does it, but he'* also done a LOT of them. I've only done two (in GPs) and I can do one in right around 6hrs.

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