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Old 03-27-2005, 08:49 PM   #71
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Every other tank? The tanks in between would be nearly stock octane levels bud. The stuff doesn't stay there. You use it with the gas.
Well ya I know that. I didn't know if there would be a residual amount in the tank that would affect the next mix.
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If this stuff works it is prolly better for modded supercharged engines, eh?
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If you have KR or think you might at the track, it'* for you.
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Old 03-28-2005, 06:33 PM   #74
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hey every one walmart has acetone 100% pure $7.00 a gal. and i was looking at Berryman B-12 Chemtool it contains: Toluene,Methanol,Acetone,Mixed Xylenes,Methyl Ethyl Ketone,2-Butoxyethanol,and Isopropanol they way there saying it cleans petroum residues from carburetor,fuel system,fuel injectors,valves,rings,pistons.oil returns.lifters,oilpump screen and pcv valve. and its safe to use for engines epuipped with oxygen sensors and catalytic converters web site is www.berrymanproducts.com


p.*. my friend put some acetone in his car he told me it ran great and good on gas. and he told me not to get ANY on the paint it will eat it off.


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Old 03-28-2005, 06:43 PM   #75
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I wonder if Target has it? I have to run an errand after work, and if I go to Target I can check and see if they have the new OCC toys.... WalMart is right across the street, so I could easily go there, too I guess. They just don't sell my toy motorcycles...
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Old 03-28-2005, 07:53 PM   #76
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That makes sense that you wouldn't want it anywhere near your paint. I'm more concerned about splashing it on the quarter panel than I am about consequences in the engine.

I just ran a can of Berryman Chemtool through my tank a few weeks ago.... seems to be good stuff. The guy at O'Reillys said he was at a conference where GM was recommending the use of Berryman as injector/fuel system cleaner. I haven't noticed any side effects, so I would guess it did what it was supposed to.
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I use a transaxle funnel exclusively for my Toluene. And I pull it out with a rag around it.

That Berryman'* B12 scares me. I've used it with good results for it'* intended purpose, but that'* far too many contents to investigate for their impact on performance and reliability of the motor. Think about your intake manifold seals before you consider any chemical like that. Valve seals, too.
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Remember that link I posted above? The dragster? Chris dumped nitro-methanol in favor of Toluene. He tested both at Woodburn last summer, and found the Toluene to work better for him.
Just to be sure we are talking about the same thing...
http://www.snowperformance.net/prodd...p?prod=Auto120
that is what I'm talking about.
for how much they are charging you for that stuff at the link, I would suggest what i use in my 74 Nova dragcar....Go to a RC hobby shop and get a gallon of 40% Nitromethane engine fuel and add it to the gas in your car when at the track. I put one gallon of that in with 10-11 gallons of 110 octane in my 12 gallon JAZ fuelcell and boy does she pep up! i figure it equates to around 3-4%of nitromethane in the overall mixture.
now keep in mind this is on a 350 sbc with a N2O plate and more supporting mods but nitromethane sure lets ya bring more to the table! lol
on a side note the 0.21 cubic inch PiccoNovarosi engine in my gas powered RC boat is rated at 3.2 brake Hp at 20,000rpm, on 40% nitro glowfuel! but lkately my dragcar has been getting all the attention lol.

and back to the purpose of this thread I started using acetone in my 84 toyota cressida and my 68 Ford f250, when i first read the article. the toyota is still on it'* first tank with it at ~2.5oz per 10 gallons (added just under 4 oz at a 15gallon fillup) and it looks like (with no other changes in driving) I will be getting ~10% increase in fuel ecconomy--from 24mpg to 26!
the Ford is the one where i have noticed a remarkable increase!
68 390 cid V8 with a 2bbl carb I put 3.5oz in the first tank (13gallon behind the bench seat) and woah! i went from 8mpg to 10! I have the idle screws in 1/2 turn farther than they have ever been! and the plugs indicated she was still rich so i got a carb rebuild kit and went 1 size smaller on the main metering jets (from 70'* to 6 and so far on this tank of gas/acetone it looks like 11mpg but i still have a 1/2 tank to burn through before i know for sure! this may not be a valid comparison for most of you, but realise that the mpg on the F250 went up almost 25%!!! part may be to the rebuild (on this tankfull anyway) but the carb was clean and i only needed the kit for the bowl gaskets etc.
still I am happy with the results so far I will have to see how it all pans out, so far it'* been good! enough so that i may play with the acetone in my dragcar this season with the RC glowfuel! hell if i blow it up it just means that i will have to finish my turbocharged 400sbc sooner rather than later!
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if you wanna see something neat take some acetone and pour a little on a hot stove. We were using this stuff in my chem class, it vaporizes so fast it forms little beads. Be careful though, it will crack hot glass. I ruined a 600mL beaker this way.

Another fun thing to do with acetone is pour some in a glass and put a styrofoam cup in it. The styrofoam will liquefy and go to the bottom. You can then take it out and play with it.

Back on track. I dont think acetone will hurt your cat much at all, its got the same stuff as gasoline in it. It rpobably burns alot cleaner than gas. I am going to try this the next time I have the chance to go to Walgreens. If I can find some rubber I will see if acetone dissolves it. It says right in the article that ACETONE DISSOLVES MOST PLASTICS.
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Well, I added some B12 to this tank to try and clean everything up. This stuff has been around probably longer than anyone here has know what a car was...
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In 1958, B-12 Chemtool was developed as a multi-purpose surface cleaning solvent and soon became Berryman'* flagship product.
I've always known it to be a great engine cleaner (thanks Dad!!), AND it comes in an Acetone safe metal can!! Now all I need is an Acetone safe measuring cup, and I'll be out to test this theory....
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