Air Intake Systems
hows that pipe coming if you havent got it yet let me share some#'* with you
stock 19mpg mixed driving
"rai" used a 3inch id pvc attached filter was about 7-8 inches long kindof a wizzard type if you know then result 23+ mixed driving
"cai" 4ich id pvc mounted down out of engine bay. at first the iat wasnt hooked up the milege went back to around 19-20
cai with iat connected back to 23+ and a ton more torque
I say all that to show you how much more fuel the pcm uses when reading cold air vs hot air.1 and 2 to say that since that difference is so high your going to be running way rich so the o2 sensors will overide your iat and tell the pcm that its not working wont kick a cel just wont use them. so then you get no gain from cold days etc trust me i tried a lot of setups and a lot of positioning make a cai ill give you the plans i used it was 25 bucks for 4 inch 15 for 3 ich
stock 19mpg mixed driving
"rai" used a 3inch id pvc attached filter was about 7-8 inches long kindof a wizzard type if you know then result 23+ mixed driving
"cai" 4ich id pvc mounted down out of engine bay. at first the iat wasnt hooked up the milege went back to around 19-20
cai with iat connected back to 23+ and a ton more torque
I say all that to show you how much more fuel the pcm uses when reading cold air vs hot air.1 and 2 to say that since that difference is so high your going to be running way rich so the o2 sensors will overide your iat and tell the pcm that its not working wont kick a cel just wont use them. so then you get no gain from cold days etc trust me i tried a lot of setups and a lot of positioning make a cai ill give you the plans i used it was 25 bucks for 4 inch 15 for 3 ich
With PVC, when the poly vinyl chloride gets hot, it releases nasty molecules that can react during combustion and make nasty deposits on your cylinder walls. Engines create a ton of heat, and that heat causes the PVC to heat up, ionizing some of the poly vinyl chloride and chemicals used to cure it and releasing them into the intake air. I'm sure it won't do anything in a year - it might not even do anything in two years - but over time, the build up of gunk on cylinder walls can cause problems. Honda forums have shown this. But maybe it'* just the ricer engines.
yea ive read that a lot of places always followed by the guys saying they have done it for years i know i can run for a alf hour pop my hood open and the intake isnt really hot at all so id be really suprised if it was breaking down at all
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PVC has a safe operational temp of about 160* if I remember right. It'* melting point is much higher then that. Under hood temps arent a real problem with PVC. Best to use aluminum tube in place of the PVC if you can.
Hey i have the K&N filter and i also have a cold air intake. there are both on my car with a spliter. i was wondering if thats good bad. if i should just go with the K&N just got with the cold air. the COld air intake temp on an auto tap computer reading is 100 and K&N is 110 plus. SHould i run one or the other. And also i am planing on geting the crome hose so it not as close to the engine
Wow, dude. You need a 4" pipe going from a CAI or FWI. Put a K&N filter into the CAI enclosure, but avoid having a hot air intake. You lose the effect of a CAI when you use a hot air intake as well. Insanely fast Bonnevilles still have one filter, so you're set with one as well. Spend the money on tuning or various other cool items.
I see you still have your engine cover. Take off that to help cool your engine better. That will give you more power than two filters working against each others' temperatures. Also, take off that strip of rubber weather stripping at the very back of the engine bay where the hood seals. This gives you a sort of "cowl hood" effect, and it helps cool down your engine even more. You want as much cool air as possible, but don't do anything too crazy.
I see you still have your engine cover. Take off that to help cool your engine better. That will give you more power than two filters working against each others' temperatures. Also, take off that strip of rubber weather stripping at the very back of the engine bay where the hood seals. This gives you a sort of "cowl hood" effect, and it helps cool down your engine even more. You want as much cool air as possible, but don't do anything too crazy.




