Adding Performance Shift Buttons for Those Without!
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Originally Posted by yukong
Did anyone ever try adding the buttons on their car and did it work?
My 97 SSE has only the traction control, but I was in the console and found another connector in the wiring harness hooked up to the traction control, and that connector was not hooked up. So I know the wiring is there. Will it work if hooked up?
My 97 SSE has only the traction control, but I was in the console and found another connector in the wiring harness hooked up to the traction control, and that connector was not hooked up. So I know the wiring is there. Will it work if hooked up?
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It won't work
Normal mode limits the shifts in an SSEi or SSE equipped with the option. If I ripped out my console buttons entirely, my car would shift at the same point (5400 rpms) as a car without the performance shift option.
So if you did the upgrade/mod, your car would be capable of shifting LOWER than normal, not higher.
Normal mode limits the shifts in an SSEi or SSE equipped with the option. If I ripped out my console buttons entirely, my car would shift at the same point (5400 rpms) as a car without the performance shift option.
So if you did the upgrade/mod, your car would be capable of shifting LOWER than normal, not higher.
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Originally Posted by willwren
It won't work
Normal mode limits the shifts in an SSEi or SSE equipped with the option. If I ripped out my console buttons entirely, my car would shift at the same point (5400 rpms) as a car without the performance shift option.
So if you did the upgrade/mod, your car would be capable of shifting LOWER than normal, not higher.
Normal mode limits the shifts in an SSEi or SSE equipped with the option. If I ripped out my console buttons entirely, my car would shift at the same point (5400 rpms) as a car without the performance shift option.
So if you did the upgrade/mod, your car would be capable of shifting LOWER than normal, not higher.
What about the suspension buttons..."performance ride" vs. "touring ride"?
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For that you'd need the struts nobody wants, and another black box. And the struts are no longer made.
Most with that option disable it with aftermarket standard struts when a strut dies.
Most with that option disable it with aftermarket standard struts when a strut dies.
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Originally Posted by willwren
For that you'd need the struts nobody wants, and another black box. And the struts are no longer made.
Most with that option disable it with aftermarket standard struts when a strut dies.
Most with that option disable it with aftermarket standard struts when a strut dies.
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In short, you have two trannies. Both the same, one doesn't have buttons, one does. When the one with buttons is in "performance mode" it runs the same as the one without buttons. When it'* in "normal" mode it'* dumbed down. So you can't gain anything AT ALL from this.
Secondly don't even bother with the perform ride! The air shocks sucked, and the system is plauged.
Secondly don't even bother with the perform ride! The air shocks sucked, and the system is plauged.
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Originally Posted by BonneMeMN
Secondly don't even bother with the perform ride! The air shocks sucked, and the system is plauged.
The electronic struts had a limited lifetime, and were plagued with enough problems that Pontiac discontinued CCR (computer command ride) as an option, and stopped manufacturing the struts.
If you had this option, and a strut failed, you would have no options other than getting a junkyard strut (not a good idea) or going with conventional struts for the rest of the life of the car.
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If you're car didn't come with the performance shift option I'm pretty sure its not even in the computer...so I don't think it would make any difference unless you got the PCM reprogrammed (or got a chip or something).
Personally, I would just leave the Performance Shift on all the time anyways. The car really doesn't shift that hard, and it really doesn't shift that late. I don't know that the gas mileage difference would be much. My dad just hard wired the Performance Shift to be on in his GTP (he didn't have a button becuase the last year of it was 2001 IIRC, so instead of running a button, he just ran a ground). With it wired on all the time, it seems to shift like a normal time until you put your foot down, then its tire-smoking, back breaking acceleration with crisp shifts....only to the speed limit of course.
Or you could just take the route I'm going with my STE....put a 5 speed in it. Although, I'm pretty sure that would take a lot of work to fabricate, whereas on my car it is virtually bolt on.
Shawn
Personally, I would just leave the Performance Shift on all the time anyways. The car really doesn't shift that hard, and it really doesn't shift that late. I don't know that the gas mileage difference would be much. My dad just hard wired the Performance Shift to be on in his GTP (he didn't have a button becuase the last year of it was 2001 IIRC, so instead of running a button, he just ran a ground). With it wired on all the time, it seems to shift like a normal time until you put your foot down, then its tire-smoking, back breaking acceleration with crisp shifts....only to the speed limit of course.
Or you could just take the route I'm going with my STE....put a 5 speed in it. Although, I'm pretty sure that would take a lot of work to fabricate, whereas on my car it is virtually bolt on.
Shawn
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Originally Posted by willwren
Originally Posted by BonneMeMN
Secondly don't even bother with the perform ride! The air shocks sucked, and the system is plauged.
The electronic struts had a limited lifetime, and were plagued with enough problems that Pontiac discontinued CCR (computer command ride) as an option, and stopped manufacturing the struts.
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DB, which one are you going with?
It'* possible, just really need the shifter to be setup right for the car body. And a PCM withouth shift code, but it'* possible. If mine goes, i'm doing one of the getrags...
It'* possible, just really need the shifter to be setup right for the car body. And a PCM withouth shift code, but it'* possible. If mine goes, i'm doing one of the getrags...