1995-1996 PCM
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This part PCM part # belongs to a 1996 Bonneville, yet in the list of applications, it says it can work from 1987 to 2002. Sorry about the copy and paste here, but it kinda shows you the applications for this PCM. Just curious about upgrading current OBDI to OBDII.
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Description: ELECTRONIC CONTROL MODULE
Part #: 16217058
Categories:
Collision > ELECTRICAL > ELECTRICAL
Collision > EXHAUST AND EMISSION > EMISSION SYS
Mechanical > GROUP 1 - TUNE-UP & EMISSION > EMISSION CONTROL
Mechanical > GROUP 18 - HEATING & AIR CONDITIONING > AIR CONDITIONING
Mechanical > GROUP 2 - FUEL & EXHAUST > FUEL DELIVERY SYSTEM
Mechanical > GROUP 5 - COOLING > COOLING SYSTEM
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Make Model Year(*) Application
Buick Century
1997-2002
3.1L Eng 1997 Module ...
1997-1998
Rebuilt
1997-2002
w/o Supercharger 3.8 ...
Buick LeSabre
1992-1999
1997 Module, Control (a)
Buick Regal
1997-2002
3.1L Eng 1997 Module ...
1997-2003
w/o Supercharger 3.8 ...
1997-1998
Normally Aspirated, Rebuilt
Buick Skylark
1992-1998
6 Cyl Module, Contr ...
1998
Rebuilt
1997
V6, Rebuilt
Chevrolet Lumina
1995-1999
3.1L Eng Module, PCM 97
1997
3.1L Eng, Exchange
1997
3.1L Eng, PCM
Chevrolet Monte Carlo
1995-1999
3.1L Eng Module, PCM 97
1997
3.1L Eng, Exchange
1997
3.1L Eng, PCM
Chevrolet Venture
1997-2002
Module, Control (PCM) 97
Oldsmobile Achieva
1997
V6
Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme
1988-1997
PCM Module, Control (a) 97
Oldsmobile Eighty-Eight
1992-1999
w/o Supercharger 199 ...
Oldsmobile LSS
1992-1999
w/o Supercharger 199 ...
1997
Normally Aspirated
Oldsmobile Regency
1992-1999
w/o Supercharger 199 ...
Oldsmobile Silhouette
1997-2002
Module, Control (PCM) 97
1997
PCM
Pontiac Bonneville
1996-1997
Normally Aspirated
Pontiac Grand Am
1997
V6
Pontiac Grand Prix
1997-2002
3.1L Eng Module, PCM 97
1997-2002
w/o Supercharger 3.8 ...
1996-1997
Normally Aspirated
Pontiac Trans Sport
1997-2002
Module, Control (PCM) 97
What say ye?
Description: ELECTRONIC CONTROL MODULE
Part #: 16217058
Categories:
Collision > ELECTRICAL > ELECTRICAL
Collision > EXHAUST AND EMISSION > EMISSION SYS
Mechanical > GROUP 1 - TUNE-UP & EMISSION > EMISSION CONTROL
Mechanical > GROUP 18 - HEATING & AIR CONDITIONING > AIR CONDITIONING
Mechanical > GROUP 2 - FUEL & EXHAUST > FUEL DELIVERY SYSTEM
Mechanical > GROUP 5 - COOLING > COOLING SYSTEM
Add to Cart
Make Model Year(*) Application
Buick Century
1997-2002
3.1L Eng 1997 Module ...
1997-1998
Rebuilt
1997-2002
w/o Supercharger 3.8 ...
Buick LeSabre
1992-1999
1997 Module, Control (a)
Buick Regal
1997-2002
3.1L Eng 1997 Module ...
1997-2003
w/o Supercharger 3.8 ...
1997-1998
Normally Aspirated, Rebuilt
Buick Skylark
1992-1998
6 Cyl Module, Contr ...
1998
Rebuilt
1997
V6, Rebuilt
Chevrolet Lumina
1995-1999
3.1L Eng Module, PCM 97
1997
3.1L Eng, Exchange
1997
3.1L Eng, PCM
Chevrolet Monte Carlo
1995-1999
3.1L Eng Module, PCM 97
1997
3.1L Eng, Exchange
1997
3.1L Eng, PCM
Chevrolet Venture
1997-2002
Module, Control (PCM) 97
Oldsmobile Achieva
1997
V6
Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme
1988-1997
PCM Module, Control (a) 97
Oldsmobile Eighty-Eight
1992-1999
w/o Supercharger 199 ...
Oldsmobile LSS
1992-1999
w/o Supercharger 199 ...
1997
Normally Aspirated
Oldsmobile Regency
1992-1999
w/o Supercharger 199 ...
Oldsmobile Silhouette
1997-2002
Module, Control (PCM) 97
1997
PCM
Pontiac Bonneville
1996-1997
Normally Aspirated
Pontiac Grand Am
1997
V6
Pontiac Grand Prix
1997-2002
3.1L Eng Module, PCM 97
1997-2002
w/o Supercharger 3.8 ...
1996-1997
Normally Aspirated
Pontiac Trans Sport
1997-2002
Module, Control (PCM) 97
You cannot upgrade without also changing all your sensors, adding a MAP sensor, swapping the entire wiring harness out (requiring a PCM relocate for you), and alot of other stuff.
The BOX may be interchangeable, but the Eprom is not without alot of work. This is no simple task even with the 92 and 93, which you would think would be nearly identical.
The BOX may be interchangeable, but the Eprom is not without alot of work. This is no simple task even with the 92 and 93, which you would think would be nearly identical.
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So, in theory, this would be possible? PCM, wiring harness, all sensors on the engine. So, only difference in the sensors would be values correct? They are mechanicaly swappable?
Should this happen, walk into local Autozone and buy a part.
Well, sir, what kind of car is it?
Um, its a 95 and a 96!
Should this happen, walk into local Autozone and buy a part.
Well, sir, what kind of car is it?
Um, its a 95 and a 96!
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The PCM for the 95 and the PCM for the 96 is worlds apart
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Originally Posted by jr's3800
The PCM for the 95 and the PCM for the 96 is worlds apart
As I always say, When their is a way, their is a will and vice versa.
Engines are the same in a way, yet there are differences. Both being L36'* isn't really the whole story.
96 is managed in a totally different way, including with a MAP sensor that your 95 doesn't have. In addition to that, I believe the crank pulley is different, which means the engine/PCM management for fuel and spark timing pulses is different. You also (IIRC) have only one O2 sensor, which is a different part number than the 96'* front O2, and the 96 also has a rear O2 to be OBD2 compliant. There may be other differences.
96 is managed in a totally different way, including with a MAP sensor that your 95 doesn't have. In addition to that, I believe the crank pulley is different, which means the engine/PCM management for fuel and spark timing pulses is different. You also (IIRC) have only one O2 sensor, which is a different part number than the 96'* front O2, and the 96 also has a rear O2 to be OBD2 compliant. There may be other differences.
Originally Posted by willwren
In addition to that, I believe the crank pulley is different, which means the engine/PCM management for fuel and spark timing pulses is different.
Why would you want to upgrade anyways?
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Originally Posted by 95naSTA
Originally Posted by willwren
In addition to that, I believe the crank pulley is different, which means the engine/PCM management for fuel and spark timing pulses is different.
Why would you want to upgrade anyways?
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