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Old 05-20-2004, 01:17 AM   #1
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Well as some of you know I have been having some transmission problems on my 95 zetec auto.........The (what I think) solenoid pack is shot (not 100% sure my guess) and it would constantly upshift/downshift/pop into neutral then slam back into gear once my transmission would get warm....... Then I noticed the plug that is right by the solenoid pack on the top of the TRANNY.......and thought wonder what would happen if i took this off.......I said ahh **** it cant be ne worse than how it is.......I took it off and wham bam the problems are gone...... but the transmission is fucked cause its good in P R and N but when I am in D or 2 It will stay in 3rd gear no matter what even from the stop sign and when I put it into 1st it goes into 2nd gear........So its like having a tranny with no OD nor 1st gear........ This causes alot of stress on the engine and trannsmission when starting from a stop sign like hardcore stress the tranny whines till it grabs totally...... I wonder if this will make the tranny go quicker or not........

BTW THERE ARE LIKE 10 WIRES COMMING FROM THIS PLUG THAT I DISSCONECTED OFF THE TRANNY
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it makes compleat sense as to why it stays in 3rd gear, that plug you undid senses when to down shift and up shift, if its not getting a signal it probally wont know what gear to be in, causing alot of issues, this solienoid is probally your inital problem, if its acting like you say, the solienoid is messed up and sending poor readings about, once unhooked there is no poor readings cause there is non at all...
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i know what your are talking about i cant think of the name i know its a 30$ part
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Well as some of you know I have been having some transmission problems on my 95 zetec auto.........The (what I think) solenoid pack is shot (not 100% sure my guess) and it would constantly upshift/downshift/pop into neutral then slam back into gear once my transmission would get warm....... Then I noticed the plug that is right by the solenoid pack on the top of the TRANNY.......and thought wonder what would happen if i took this off.......I said ahh f*** it cant be ne worse than how it is.......I took it off and wham bam the problems are gone...... but the transmission is f*** cause its good in P R and N but when I am in D or 2 It will stay in 3rd gear no matter what even from the stop sign and when I put it into 1st it goes into 2nd gear........So its like having a tranny with no OD nor 1st gear........ This causes alot of stress on the engine and trannsmission when starting from a stop sign like hardcore stress the tranny whines till it grabs totally...... I wonder if this will make the tranny go quicker or not........

BTW THERE ARE LIKE 10 WIRES COMMING FROM THIS PLUG THAT I DISSCONECTED OFF THE TRANNY
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Ahhh, just rebuild the tranny over the summer
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Ahhh, just rebuild the tranny over the summer
If I have the time going to school to be an auto mechanic this summer don't know what school I wana go to school but once I am done with schooling I will most likly rebuild the transmission after I go to school to be a auto mechanic with my best friend 1 1/2 years

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i dont think the tranny will last 2yrs??
junkyard tranny??!!
another thing the way i learned to work on cars and many others from this site is pay attention whatch and learn or just try to accomplish the project your self with all the right building blocks blocks you shouldnt need school (only if you wanna become ASE cerified)
just my .02
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Yea, junkyard tranny would be an excellent idea! I am sure they are easy to find for that model car.
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Yea, junkyard tranny would be an excellent idea! I am sure they are easy to find for that model car.
Ha ha yea right the main reason there in the junk-yard is most likly transmission failure.......... but someone else says I cannot run my car without that sensor this is what he says...............
OK,
By disconnection the harness you bypassed the electronic shift solenoids so the PCM can not shift the transmission. You are basically in limp home mode (by default 3rd gear). The real problem is you also disco’d your line pressure regulator. Without the regulator you are subjecting you tranny’* hydraulic system to extreme pressures that will cause it to fail for sure!

You can not trouble shoot an electronic controlled automatic by the seat of your pants. You need to run a full power train diag and hydraulic system pressure checks before you do anything else. This requires test equipment and technical knowledge of the ATX and PCM.

If you really want to try to shot gun it, replace the range sensor. Based on your descriptions it is the most likely component, the easiest to change and the least expensive. You do not want to try and change the solenoids with out a manual and some good tools.

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Yea, junkyard tranny would be an excellent idea! I am sure they are easy to find for that model car.
Ha ha yea right the main reason there in the junk-yard is most likly transmission failure.......... but someone else says I cannot run my car without that sensor this is what he says...............
OK,
By disconnection the harness you bypassed the electronic shift solenoids so the PCM can not shift the transmission. You are basically in limp home mode (by default 3rd gear). The real problem is you also disco’d your line pressure regulator. Without the regulator you are subjecting you tranny’* hydraulic system to extreme pressures that will cause it to fail for sure!

You can not trouble shoot an electronic controlled automatic by the seat of your pants. You need to run a full power train diag and hydraulic system pressure checks before you do anything else. This requires test equipment and technical knowledge of the ATX and PCM.

If you really want to try to shot gun it, replace the range sensor. Based on your descriptions it is the most likely component, the easiest to change and the least expensive. You do not want to try and change the solenoids with out a manual and some good tools.

jeff

Get a junkyard tranny to rebuild it, so you can still drive your other car for the summer. That is what I was talking about, and I think G'O was to
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