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Old 07-03-2004, 10:48 AM   #11
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Here'* my thoughts:

There'* a huge difference between preventing someone from acing you out of your lane, or a quick light to light competion, and those morons that gather up on astreet and set up staged races, or go screaming down an inner-city insterstate at 90 to 100 miles per hour.

The latter are the ones that tend to get people hurt or killed, usually involving someone other than the racers.

Yes, I have shown a couple of folks what our Bonnes can do, but I have done my very best to ensure that it will not affect other drivers. And I also have a personal speed limit of 10 over what'* posted. As satrisfying as the fantasy may be, no amout of ego is worth an accident on a public road, endangering others, or a couple hundred dollars worth of fines.

If you need to "race", it should be on a track or controlled area. If you must satisfy the need for a quick "kill" (the above mentioned lane acer, jerkoff on a raltively empty freeway, etc) then it'* on you, and I hope you are very safety concious about it, but you have to be careful where you discuss it. Remember, with the way folks get sued these days, just telling the story can get more than just you in trouble.
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Old 07-03-2004, 11:56 AM   #12
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Here'* my thoughts:

There'* a huge difference between preventing someone from acing you out of your lane, or a quick light to light competion, and those morons that gather up on astreet and set up staged races, or go screaming down an inner-city insterstate at 90 to 100 miles per hour.

The latter are the ones that tend to get people hurt or killed, usually involving someone other than the racers.
That is very true and I do respect your thoughts and opinion.. the latter on paper IS definitely the more dangerous ones, but merely the stats of people killed alone or severely injured ( @ least in Ontario ) are more from the people that WEREN'T technically street racing, but street racing in a sense against the light against another car ( to cut each other off in lane or not ) and plain out carelessness ( on cell phone or changing radio stations ) are way higher. Think of it this way.. guns are made to kill.. no ifs ands or buts about it, but yet a great majority owns and loves to go to the range and or hunt, it doesn't make them a human killer but yet there will always be violence that involves guns, does that mean they should also make guns illegal? Where'* the big pic? Again I don't condone idiots out there racing down roads thats populated with innocent bystanders on the sidewalk or in their cars.

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Yes, I have shown a couple of folks what our Bonnes can do, but I have done my very best to ensure that it will not affect other drivers. And I also have a personal speed limit of 10 over what'* posted. As satrisfying as the fantasy may be, no amout of ego is worth an accident on a public road, endangering others, or a couple hundred dollars worth of fines.
Sure street racers have no intentions of wanting to schmuck up their car or hurt someone, and I do speed myself ( 20 over the most ) .. but it doesn't take much for a split second miscalculation to get into something severe. The only time I don't speed is in winter.

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If you need to "race", it should be on a track or controlled area. If you must satisfy the need for a quick "kill" (the above mentioned lane acer, jerkoff on a raltively empty freeway, etc) then it'* on you, and I hope you are very safety concious about it, but you have to be careful where you discuss it. Remember, with the way folks get sued these days, just telling the story can get more than just you in trouble.
The problem I have with those avenues are ( at least in Ontario ) the cops says don't street race.. take it to a track, but yet when we do, you'll see them all lined up pullin every tom dick and henry over poppin their hood just to give tickets out at the track or car shows. What gives? You wonder why people decide to street race? You go to closed circuit to play it safe like they say and you get a ticket, most at 1 point or another will then say, I"ll take the chance of MIGHT get a ticket from street racing. Until the cops straighten out their act, it would be hard to keep street racing down to a minimum.. Street racing has been going on since.. well, the 50'*..

Again, I don't mean to disrespect you or anything MOS. Your point of view is VERY valid concern, and greatly appreciated.. just hiprocricy I see thats all
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The problem I have with those avenues are ( at least in Ontario ) the cops says don't street race.. take it to a track, but yet when we do, you'll see them all lined up pullin every tom dick and henry over poppin their hood just to give tickets out at the track or car shows.
The cops pulled that here in Portland Oregon. When the problem was at it'* worst and someone was being killed every week, they went to the track and waited outside for people. They handed out tickets for things like not having a license plate on the front of the car? Way to encourage people to be safe
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The problem I have with those avenues are ( at least in Ontario ) the cops says don't street race.. take it to a track, but yet when we do, you'll see them all lined up pullin every tom dick and henry over poppin their hood just to give tickets out at the track or car shows.
The cops pulled that here in Portland Oregon. When the problem was at it'* worst and someone was being killed every week, they went to the track and waited outside for people. They handed out tickets for things like not having a license plate on the front of the car? Way to encourage people to be safe
I am having a hard time understanding exactly what you mean by this because I have never seen it. But you are saying that the cops wait outside the gates and give everyone dumb tickets like one head lighters, cracked windshields, etc?

That is dumb.
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No

Logan, they nail the people that have modified their cars. Only car heads go to the track and shows right? So the cops know its easy pickins....they pull you over, see oooo intake...ticket...ooo no cat...ticket.. have a nice day

IT SUCKS....
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i got pulled over leaving the track once for having my interior stripped, having no center caps on my backup race wheels and for having low tire pressure(i was going right down the street to the gas station cuz the air compressor at the track was crowded)... he also did a THOROUGH inspection of my drag radials to see if they were DOT approved(he even asked a track official to inspect them because he didnt believe me)
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we have a group of racers that meet in a town near hear and they do not race on major roads, its the last thing they would do, not only is it alot riskier there are alot more cops, sometimes I go to watch them race and they only do it on service roads that have no traffic
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