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If theres trust,communication and confidence in the relationship, then its all good. Meaning... it all depends on the two people in the relationship.
Some guys get to go and some guys dont...

thats about all i got...

ya know, i totally saw that red flag as soon as she asked to use my phone because it was a rediculous comment considering there were plenty of people there to take her home. I just really felt like it was a catch 22 or a set up because i didn't have any intentions on going and she told me to go and i said no thank you and then she kept saying it so i said ok. I also understand that sometimes everyone including myself needs reassurance, but I was being sensitive to her feeling from the start. I don't think that it is very fair that I have to read her mind, even though i know its what i gotta do. Like i was saying before, ultimately its not about the strip club. Its about the fact that i have to read her mind because she wont just say what she wants. This reminds me of something my father once said to me. He said "no matter what, when you grow up someone is gonna try to kick you *** so you might as well learn how to fight." Now it makes sense... No matter what, she is gonna expect me to read her mind so I might as well learn mental telepathy

That situation sucks, alot of women around here goto strip clubs, heck I've bounced at one and a couple of times there were more women in there then men(not counting the dancers).

You know what I dont get Brian? How men must learn to read THEIR minds. Why not make HER tell you exactly what it is shes after? Im on your side Buddy TRUST me!!!

I have had MANY similar situation here at home and Its VERY frustrating!!

its quite simple








WOMEN ARE CRAZY!!

Women are not crazy. As for why she behaved that way.... I don't know. No matter how much you flatten a pancake it still has 2 sides. I would like to hear her version.

What I think is perhaps she didn't want you to go and then agreed since the other wife/gf was going also. When she found out that wasn't the case she didn't want to seem like the bad person so she said to go. She didn't want you to be teased by the guys like you were a whooped man so reluctantly tried to go along with the same plans while probably hoping you would know her well enough to know she didn't want you to go.

That is just my thoughts.

I have been to see male strippers - I'm sure no surprise there but I only went twice because after the first time it was actually boring. Sure the men were hot but I had no desire to kiss a guy when I'd watched him kiss 20 other women as well. Nasty!! I really don't know how I would feel if my man wanted to go to a club. I can see what the other ladies have said and think they might be right. Women don't like other women, especially 1/2 naked or completely naked women, around their men. Most men wouldn't want naked men around their women. I think it boils down to communication and setting up clear boundries so you both are on the same page. It may not bother some women and that is fine but it may hurt an insecure women and that should be respected. Women may not always speak precisely on what we want, we forget that men speak another language and that is how common arguments flair up.

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JW- everyone here already knows you have no love for women so your critique is just as I would expect it to be.

LMAO!

You guys are crackin' me up. The problem is you're trying to understand women. Women don't even understand women. MEN trying to understand women is like...like...dogs trying to understand cats. It just ain't gonna happen.

Your best bet is to employ the only words from a man'* mouth that women understand..."Yes, dear.", and "I'm sorry.". History indicates this works over and over again.

LOL.