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Old 03-08-2007, 01:42 AM   #31
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OK, this "prequel" trend is getting on my nerves.
Batman Begins was good, but only because they threw out the formula.
StarWars 1,2, & 3 barely passed muster, and never came close to being as good as Episodes 4,5,6.


Also, ENTERPRISE shouldn't even be referred to as StarTrek, because it was clearly shown in ST:TMP, and other places, that after the decommissioning of the aircraft carrier, there was no Enterprise until the NCC1701. It doesn't fit the show bible that was written by Gene Roddenberry, therefore it is outside of Star Trek.
My Brother has brought up the fact that the Eugenics Wars haven't happened yet, and uses that as an argument that the ST show bible can be changed. It has long been accepted in the scifi community that all scifi stories exist in their own "Universe" and need not conform to ongoing history as we know it.
In other words, Star Trek is it'* own story, completely independent of our history after the 60'*, when the original episodes were filmed. It should be noted that the writers did make it clear in the movies and the later shows that the Star Trek history matches up until the late nineties before it diverges at the point that the Eugenics Wars occur in the ST universe.

My personal opinion, do a DS9 movie. I think that crew is far more compelling than the Voyager. DS9 was such a great storyline, with incredibly deeply developed characters, and tight plotlines. I think that series would make the transition to movies very easily.
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I like "The Wrath of Kahn" because it was based on the original series episode #22 "Space Seed", where we first meet the genetically engineered Kahn. This episode also is the start of a story arc trilogy, which ended With "The Voyage Home".

Plus, how can you not like Ricardo Montalban? :P
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Cloaking device was on lone from the romulans , no other federation starship was going to be equipped with it.
Legally that is


I guess we'll never really know for sure about any of this speculation unless it comes out in a story line that would be considerred cannon



I just hope the next movie stays true to the time line that has already been established through out the Trek legacy
The cloaking device was first experienced in original episode #9, I believe, "Balance of Terror", when the Romulan "Bird of Prey" was equipped with the device, which was developed by them. This was also a first look at the Romulan figure, which looked just like the Vulcans.

Spock later explained the likelihood that the Romulans were of Vulcan blood, but had followed the path of passion and emotion, "barbarism".

So, the Klingons then acquired both the "Bird of Prey" design, and the cloaking device, probably in a diplomatic maneuver between the two races, which was given to the Klingons in return for warp drive.
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It was acquired by the klingons through a trade but I believe it was in exchange for ship design. This was used to explain why the romulan ships in the "Enterprise Incident" looked similar to the Klingon ships we were familiar with.


I agree with the prequel thing being WAY overdone, and would much rather see DS9 or TNG, hell, I'd even take some Voyager characters thrown in, but it'* trek and right now it'* all we've got. Aside from novels, but those are not canon, if they were Kirk would still be alive in the 24th century


I was thinking it would be cool to see a more "emotional" side of Spock since he would be younger and he had joined Starfleet against his father'* wishes.
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I was thinking it would be cool to see a more "emotional" side of Spock since he would be younger and he had joined Starfleet against his father'* wishes.
If you remember the earlier episodes with Captain Christopher Pike, he did show quite a bit more emotion. Remember when he touched the "singing plant" then laughed? It was after that that he began to embrace the Vulcan way, in an effort to achieve his father'* approval.

I will definitely see Star Trek 11, being the trekky that I am. I just hope they don't ruin the orginal episodes with too much gore or graphic immorality, even though Kirk did have about every alien woman he met. *But*, it was never shown too graphically.
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Also, ENTERPRISE shouldn't even be referred to as StarTrek, because it was clearly shown in ST:TMP, and other places, that after the decommissioning of the aircraft carrier, there was no Enterprise until the NCC1701.[quote]

Actually, that is incorrect.One of the ST:TNG episodes features a painting of a Daedalus class Enterprise, the crude looking ship with the spherical primary hull. In the original canon, this was apparently NX-01, not the sleek flashy thing from "Enterprise". And in 'First Contact', one of the ships in the case that Picard smashes looks to be a model of a Shuttle orbiter. Now there would be a bit of irony there, since the thing was only named Enterprise to appease all the Trek fans who deluged NASA with letters, and it was only used for glide testing, never making a powered flight. I believe there is a scene in either ST 5 or 6 that also shows the orbiter in the company of the other historical Enterprises.

Here we go: Wkikpedia'* USS Enterprise page, showing both the real and fictional ships: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Enterprise
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