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Old 12-05-2005, 01:26 PM   #11
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...a survey?!?!

I know, I know, but its for a good cause { school}. And what you submit will be used as a part in a 10-15min presentation about Internet downloading. I can't state now whether I'm for or against it so i don't "draw" a certain crowd. I selected BC for it since I know there are a wide variety of people here from all age ranges that can give some good input. How you feel about it doesn't matter, I just want you're opinions....the questions are below..ready?

1) Do You download music off of the internet?

a) yes
b) no

Yes

2) Do you download other media {games, videos, software, etc} off of the internet?

a) yes
b) no

Yes

3) If you answered "yes" to one or both questions above, do you feel that you are stealing from the artists or orginal creators of the work? Why or why not?

I don't feel that way at all because I usually purchase software or music that I've downloaded. With prices the way they are today and the high amount of utter garbage being produced by EA and the RIAA this is the only way I feel I can protect myself as a consumer.

4) Do you feel in anyway that downloading media off of the interent can help the artists or creators? Explain {briefly, of course}

Oh, I'm sure that it helps the IP (intellectual property) owner in two ways: 1) Newer IP owners have a way to cheaply expose the masses to thier media without relying on traditional, over controlling robber-baron type entities such as the MPAA and RIAA while still maintaining control over thier IP. 2) People like myself who would rather not consume the IP then "blindly" purchase have an opportunity to sample the product before we commit.

5) Do you pay for the software or service that you use to dowload software off of the internet? Do you feel that this makes the downloading legal?

This is a catch 22 type question. We all pay for the method we use to download the IP. Whether it be our internet access bill, or the wholesalers who provide the connectivity, or the school or other institution we work/learn at.. we're ultimately paying the bill. If you are referring to services such as iTunes or Napster, or Yahoo! Internet Music, then you are in effect purchasing a legal license to download and use the IP and this is a moot question.

6) Approximately how much media {music, videos, software, etc} have you downloaded from the internet?

a) 1 - 100
b) 101 - 1000
c) 1001 - 5000
d) 5000+

C

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Old 12-05-2005, 01:46 PM   #12
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Default Re: so who'* up for...

1) a) yes


2) a) yes


3) RE: Music - maybe - but in all reality, we didn't think nothing of it when we made tapes off the radio....
RE: Software - no at all - some I pay for, the free ones are legitimately free

4) Yes - exposure to their music can theoretically increase concert ticket sales, tshirts & other items....

5) for music - yes I did...they said it was legal...not sure if it was or not....but I've got it in writing from them.


6) b) 101 - 1000
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1.) Yes

2.) Yes (TV shows, namely BBC'* weekly eps of Top Gear)

3.) If something is worthy, I will buy it - I do buy CD'*. But some of the things I download are more obscure and not really available in stores (ie, local indie bands or foreign TV shows)

4.) As art, sure - from a non-business perspective. I've been meaning to get in touch with some more lesser known, smaller-scale music artists and compliment or talk about their work on a personal scale. From a business perspective, I'm just stealing.

5.) No, I use Limewire(free), the high speed (cable) 'net connection is paid for. It'* not legal technically, but eh.

6.) 1001-5000, I'd say.
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1) Do You download music off of the internet?
Not anymore.

2) Do you download other media {games, videos, software, etc} off of the internet?
Not unless it'* freeware.

3) If you answered "yes" to one or both questions above, do you feel that you are stealing from the artists or orginal creators of the work? Why or why not?
n/a

4) Do you feel in anyway that downloading media off of the interent can help the artists or creators? Explain {briefly, of course}
It can help out beginning bands. It'll help get their name out. It also can be beneficial for a band to put ONE song out for free downloading, because it can encourage people to buy the CD.

5) Do you pay for the software or service that you use to dowload software off of the internet? Do you feel that this makes the downloading legal?
I don't download...

6) Approximately how much media {music, videos, software, etc} have you downloaded from the internet?

a) 1 - 100
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Old 12-05-2005, 02:17 PM   #15
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Default Re: so who'* up for...

Quote:
1) Do You download music off of the internet?

a) yes
b) no

2) Do you download other media {games, videos, software, etc} off of the internet?

a) yes
b) no

3) If you answered "yes" to one or both questions above, do you feel that you are stealing from the artists or orginal creators of the work? Why or why not?


4) Do you feel in anyway that downloading media off of the interent can help the artists or creators? Explain {briefly, of course}


5) Do you pay for the software or service that you use to dowload software off of the internet? Do you feel that this makes the downloading legal?


6) Approximately how much media {music, videos, software, etc} have you downloaded from the internet?

a) 1 - 100
b) 101 - 1000
c) 1001 - 5000
d) 5000+


Thanks guys, as always your feedback is greatly appreciated!
1. Yes
2. Rarely
3. Yes its theft, however its a gray area. Your not stealing a product, you're sharing digital data, if stealing organized 1'* and 0'* then it better be legislated as a law.
4. Yes, its exposure, especially for artists that are not mainstream, its great for underground or non mainstream to get recognized. Most offer free downloads of material simply for the exposure.
5. If I have to pay for digital data (ie 1'* and 0'*) then I'd have to pay for everything on the web...its enough that one has to pay to even get online. I will pay within reason for the quality, most mainstream downloading (save torrents etc) is terrible low quality on slow servers.
6. Value..I dunno $500 bux tops, but my exposure to online music has vastly increased my CD library...I've made up for it.
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Old 12-05-2005, 02:17 PM   #16
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Default Re: so who'* up for...

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Originally Posted by xX1SSEI1Xx
...a survey?!?!

I know, I know, but its for a good cause { school}. And what you submit will be used as a part in a 10-15min presentation about Internet downloading. I can't state now whether I'm for or against it so i don't "draw" a certain crowd. I selected BC for it since I know there are a wide variety of people here from all age ranges that can give some good input. How you feel about it doesn't matter, I just want you're opinions....the questions are below..ready?

1) Do You download music off of the internet?

a) yes
b) no
Kinda - I download from Newsgroups, not the internet itself (No P2P either.)

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2) Do you download other media {games, videos, software, etc} off of the internet?
a) yes But again, not from the internet/P2P like a lot of people. Newsgroups


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3) If you answered "yes" to one or both questions above, do you feel that you are stealing from the artists or orginal creators of the work? Why or why not?
Honestly, yes. it is stealing. I won't try to kid any one or justify it. Although, if it is an artist I really want to support, I will buy a legal copy.

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4) Do you feel in anyway that downloading media off of the interent can help the artists or creators? Explain {briefly, of course}
It can, yes. It'* a way to advertise. There'* a rumour that Microsoft intentionally leaks some of their products to the "pirate community" knowing that based on the buzz from the "stolen" copies, enough real purchases will be generated to outweigh their loss

There are also bands that freely distribute thier music, to limited "communities" as advertising as well.


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5) Do you pay for the software or service that you use to dowload software off of the internet? Do you feel that this makes the downloading legal?
The internet is part of my rent, but I do pay extra for newsgroup access. This does not make the downloading legal, tho. Anyone who says that is just trying to justify doing what they know is wrong (very similar to "Yeah, I was drunk, but i was only driving on the back roads")


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6) Approximately how much media {music, videos, software, etc} have you downloaded from the internet?
a) 1 - 100
b) 101 - 1000
c) 1001 - 5000 Rough guess. A lot of what I download, I eventually ditch. I don't stay interest in that stuff for very long....

d) 5000+


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If the RIAA shows up at my door, I will hunt you down like a dog!!!
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Old 12-05-2005, 03:36 PM   #17
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1) Do You download music off of the internet?
a) yes


2) Do you download other media {games, videos, software, etc} off of the internet?
a) yes


3) If you answered "yes" to one or both questions above, do you feel that you are stealing from the artists or orginal creators of the work? Why or why not?
Somewhat. I also feel that I am helping spread their music making them more popular. CD'* cost pennies to make, and the price to buy is too high to justify, downloading is also easier and faster.

4) Do you feel in anyway that downloading media off of the interent can help the artists or creators? Explain {briefly, of course}
Yes. It exposes their music to people that would not have paid to buy their cd origianlly, but after listening to it, they may decide to pick up some band memorabila (posters, shirts, DVDs, cds) or also concert tickets.


5) Do you pay for the software or service that you use to dowload software off of the internet? Do you feel that this makes the downloading legal?
No. I feel if you are paying to download then it is legal though.

6) Approximately how much media {music, videos, software, etc} have you downloaded from the internet?
d) 5000+
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1) Do You download music off of the internet?

a) yes

2) Do you download other media {games, videos, software, etc} off of the internet?

a) yes

3) If you answered "yes" to one or both questions above, do you feel that you are stealing from the artists or orginal creators of the work? Why or why not?

No, b/c I paid for it.

4) Do you feel in anyway that downloading media off of the interent can help the artists or creators? Explain {briefly, of course}

Yes, because it helps them realize what kind of music people want to listen to, so they can make more of it.

5) Do you pay for the software or service that you use to dowload software off of the internet? Do you feel that this makes the downloading legal?

Yes, yes.

6) Approximately how much media {music, videos, software, etc} have you downloaded from the internet?

a) 1 - 100
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Default Re: so who'* up for...

1) Do You download music off of the internet?
a) yes

2) Do you download other media {games, videos, software, etc} off of the internet?
a) yes

3) If you answered "yes" to one or both questions above, do you feel that you are stealing from the artists or orginal creators of the work? Why or why not?
Absoultely not, most MP3 tracks are at 128KBPS which is a noticable quality difference from 1411KBPS......If the must is good I will buy the album and rip the tracks

4) Do you feel in anyway that downloading media off of the interent can help the artists or creators?
Yes, if it is good, most people will buy the album IMO

5) Do you pay for the software or service that you use to dowload software off of the internet? Do you feel that this makes the downloading legal?
Downloading off the internet is not illegal to begin with, well it all depends on who you talk to. However paying for it just means you are getting ripped off, and it does not support the artists most of the time AT ALL. Maybe just a few select recording companies, and the company who hosts the music on their servers, as well as the ISP for those servers

6) Approximately how much media {music, videos, software, etc} have you downloaded from the internet?

do you mean dollar value? or quantity? ehh, answer would be the same
e) 10000+



However I own approx 150 audio cds (at least 3/4 of them have been bought because I downloaded their album first, but I am a audiophile freak so I bought the album and reripped), and everyone of them is ripped to 128-256kbps rate.
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yes

yes

no, maybe thats why everyone does it. like a lot of people speed, or J-walk, they dont think twice before they do it. they do not to bee that greedy anyways


yes, their music can get aroudn the world to different people

everything is free


1001 - 5000
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