Very few cars will have the punch that the L67 does. That'* a mountain of torque at a low RPM that will get you moving real quick. I'd say get another park avenue.

my grandparents drive that. well they did, for about a month after he sold his pa to my dad. then he bought the 8cyl version lol.

Sit rep: The sands of time are beginning to fill the hole caused by this whole ordeal. My dad did not end up being as sore as he thought he was going to be. Knot on his head is going down, he does have a sore spot on his shoulder.He also says that some times his hands tingle, so there may be some underlying issues too. Over all, he is doing okay. We really are missing the power of the L67. With it, you can see a spot up ahead, and grab it. With the current car, it makes a bit of noise, and doesn't do much of anything.

I am curious about one thing though, does that generation of Park Avenue have seat belt charges, and can they be deployed independent of the air bags, like say, in a side impact?

i dont think they do, im pretty sure its just the normal lock. these cars have the lock on a hair trigger though. if i so much as put it in reverse when im not completely stopped it locks and i cant put my arm over the other seat to see behind me lol. makes it especially annoying when you are in down town chicago trying to parallel park and you have to sit there and unlock the belt lol.

The shenanigans have begun.

The car has already been hauled off to Albuquerque to see about repairing it, and my father has been offered $500 for pain and suffering, and I am betting a waiver will be attached to it also. I couldn't help but laugh. I was offered half that for the pain and suffering I received in the wreck with the Tempo. I was fine in that wreck, with just a chest full of seat belt. My father has an appointment to see an attorney today, so we will see how that goes. It is obvious the level of neglect that was exercised by the other party, which include excessive speed and running a red light, with cars already in the intersection.

Car has been declared a total loss <No **** Sherlock >. There also were 2 vehicles in the intersection at the time, both of which were collected in the incident, with a green arrow <My dad'* car, plus the truck he was knocked in to with the LF>. Attorney feels there is not enough of a case for him to pursue, but also felt that the pain and suffering should usually be 2-3 times the medical bills. We have one ER visit from the initial hit, along with a chiropractor visit that should be made. He will probably start with the chiropractor to start working the shoulder out that is bothering him.

Couple of updates.

Got word back from the insurance company, car is valued at $5100, they are cutting a check, considering that settled, and rental car has to go back Monday. Fast one if I ever saw it, but whatever. He will clear just over $1000 on what he owes on it.

He also got with the chiropractor. After careful studies of the X-Rays, it has been determined that both his neck and lower back have spinal injuries. From what he is telling me, the neck spinal curve, is now straight, and the last vertabre, instead of being the furthest apart from each other, are now the closest. He still is in pain, but not bad enough to make him take pain meds. Suspect these are injuries from the seatbelt while being flung around.

There should be police file photos coming soon, I eagerly await those, as I want to see the debris scatter, as well as vehicle placements. He also got to see the photos of the injuries of the other guy. Lets just say the seat belt tore the other guy a new one.

that actually isnt a bad quote at all. around here they never tend to go more than 4500. although they are very ample here lol. there are 2 car dealers here up the road from me, and between them they have 4 that look just like mine, and the one never has less than one at a time.

the lowest the sticker goes is usually 3500 before they disappear so im guessing thats a fairly good deal as far as what it was quoted at.

Couple of things have come to light lately. I squirreled away all the pics to a private album, visible here:

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v2...Ultra%20Wreck/

Password: gotcarnage

Attorney is now involved full swing. Chiropractor had concluded that the shoulder pain is torn ligaments, and the lower back does in fact have a compressed disc. Another thing has come to light. The security truck had no front bumper, which explains everything, from the door skin being ripped off, to the level of penetration. We also figure the hit was centered on the A-pillar, and the frame rails did nothing but punch in to the side of the car. In the album are a few on site crash pics, where you can see the door skin lodged in the front end of the truck, and where the A-pillar hit the front of the truck. We are trying to figure out what fluid the PA dumped, but I am suspecting power steering, I bet the rack and pinion got fragged in the impact. The fight presses on. I suspect my father will be switching insurance providers at the conclusion of this ordeal in all honesty.

Apparently the insurance company didn't pull a quick one. They called my dad to see if he felt the valuation was fair, and he said that he felt it wasn't. They looked it over again, realized that only one of the cars they were looking at was an Ultra, and then offered $6125. That was a little better.

Next week my dad goes to 3 times a week with the chiropractor, instead of the everyday he was before, and they start working on deep muscle massage. I am sure he won't mind that at all