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Old 05-19-2004, 08:58 PM   #11
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Ya the 5 speed is a Yamahaha 3.0 liter 24 valve DOHC that redlines at 8000 rpm.
The auto'* come with 3.4 liter engines that redline at 7000 rpm....more torque but less hp cause the torque converter eats it.

The V8 is a 4.0 L but not as sweet or high revving as the V6 and it makes the car heavy and sluggish.
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Old 05-19-2004, 09:46 PM   #12
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The SSEi will take it off the line, but you'll lose the longer it goes.

if you changed the cam, added headers, and tuned the carb that 5.0 could be fast, but you're under 200 HP on the 88.

Manuals don't make cars faster, but if they're geared better then the auto.
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Well, Manuals can make cars quicker than the Automatics if driven properly because a manual almost always has less power loss. So with the same engine, the car will put down more power to the ground.

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Well, Manuals can make cars quicker than the Automatics if driven properly because a manual almost always has less power loss. So with the same engine, the car will put down more power to the ground.
That'* right. A manual transmission is more efficient than an automatic. About a 20 hp advantage with the same engine.
That'* why they had to increase the displacement on the automatic from 3.0 to 3.4 L to try to gain back the lost torque.

The 350 Turbohydramatic in my Firebird consumes about 40 hp plus rear end losses.
A 400 Turbohydramatic would consume about 60 hp.
Most manual gearboxes will lose only about 20 hp.
I'm not sure how much our 4T65'* consume but if Rogue'* 321 net hp and 257 whp is any indication....more than 40 hp too.
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Oh i know, but for flat out acceleration, all top fuellies use Autos. Autos shift faster 99.99% of the time.

However, i wish I had a manual, i miss my old one.

Manuals are better on road courses, because you can choose gearing, and hold a gear in places you couldn't with an auto, for reserves. And they make even the shittiest cars fun as hell.
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at the track a auto is more constistent than a manual
manual=clutch could slip,miss a shift,etc
auto=no problems shifts at the same rpms every time
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^^^^ true dat, but bracket racing with a manual tranny = teh fun... presents more of a challenge, plus learning to be consistant on a manual is freakin priceless!!
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We're about to find out the answer to this pretty soon in my neck of the woods. Next weekend, May 29th, we'll have about 15 Grand Prixs, about the same number of SHOs and a few others, including me, seeing the results at the track.

We're off to Sanair Motor Complex to run the 1/4 mile and crown a champ. Too bad the road course won't be open then, I think the SHO guys wouldn't mind a run around the course for a demonstration of 8,000 rpm redlines .

You can see more here;

http://shodown.syner-g.org/

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I'm not sure how much our 4T65'* consume but if Rogue'* 321 net hp and 257 whp is any indication....more than 40 hp too.
The general rule is 20 percent....
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When my brother is up to visit next, we'll have it out. His car is completely stock. I wanna race him with both my cars...it should be interesting. He "thinks" his SHO has 300 HP. At the bar'* he tells all his mustang buddies that his car could whoop their ***.
Oh...and 88 Iroc'* with the T5 tranny have 220 HP @ 4400 RPM and 290 FPT @ 3200 RPM and that'* STOCK. Mine is hardly stock.
But anyhow...as for my SSEi it was recently tuned up, Taylor 8 mm wires and MSD coils. I definitely will look into a smaller SC pulley.
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