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Old 02-06-2011, 01:23 AM   #1
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http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2011/...le-search.html

Like any major corporation, Microsoft has garnered some negative attention over the years. But now, it looks like Google caught the company using Google’* search results in Microsoft’* Bing search engine.
The process by which Google discovered this practice is somewhat extensive. At first, Google noticed Bing returning identical results for misspelled words like “torsoraphy,” a medical procedure, which is actually spelled “tarsorrhaphy.” Originally, Bing had no results for the misspelling, but Google did. Later, results for the misspelled “torsoraphy” began appearing on Bing’* searches.
In the coming months, Google noticed more and more of its results appearing on Bing with the same rankings. “Even search results that we would consider mistakes of our algorithms started showing up on Bing,” writes Google’* Amit Singhal on Google’* blog.
To further confirm Microsoft’* underhanded practice, Google set up a sting of sorts. They created “synthetic queries,” basically made-up search words that regular users would never type (e.g. “hiybbprqag”). Then, Google inserted a random site as a search result for “hiybbprqaq.” As Singhal puts it, “there was absolutely no reason for any search engine to return that webpage for that synthetic query. You can think of the synthetic queries with inserted results as the search engine equivalent of marked bills in a bank.”
Google then chose 20 engineers and configured their laptops with Internet Explorer 8 and the Bing toolbar using the default settings. Before long, Bing’* results for “hiybbprqaq” returned the identical site as the Google synthetic query.
But Google wasn’t done yet. They used the phrase “delhipublicschool40 chdjob” and inserted a random result for a credit union. Of course, that same credit union then appeared on Bing searches for “delhipublicschool40 chdjob.”
Singhal writes, “Put another way, some Bing results increasingly look like an incomplete, stale version of Google results—a cheap imitation.”
As far as Google’* intentions for revealing Microsoft’* unprincipled act, Singhal says “the answer is simple: we’d like for this practice to stop.”
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Microsoft denies it:

"In a blog post titled 'Setting the Record Straight,' Microsoft'* senior vice president of online services, Yusuf Mehdi, addressed Google'* 'Bing Sting' operation saying, 'We do not copy results from any of our competitors. Period. Full stop. We have some of the best minds in the world at work on search quality and relevance, and for a competitor to accuse any one of these people of such activity is just insulting.' Mehdi went on to claim that Google engaged in 'click fraud' in order to rig up their alleged 'experiment.' Mehdi added, 'That'* right, the same type of attack employed by spammers on the web to trick consumers and produce bogus search results. What does all this cloak and dagger click fraud prove? Nothing anyone in the industry doesn't already know.' The struggle for Bing to usurp Google as number one in search continues."
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haha, a Bing search from the sting still results in a credit union. You'd think that Microsoft would clear that up immediately!

http://www.bing.com/search?q=delhipu...=n&sk=&sc=1-26
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Funny read. I have read some articles that suggest Microsoft invents very little,but has a world class team of lawyers to defend what they do.
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Big deal, I still use google and don't care for microsoft. I use Windows and that'* it.
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Goggle and Microsoft should really tie the knot. Putting these two in the same basket instead of banging heads would prove out an alliance hard for anybody to bring down. Except the US Attorney General screaming monopoly as he the money paid by Apple and Sun.................
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I've said it before I'll say it again, Google will take down Microsoft... eventually.

A student walked into class with a new laptop. He'* a beta tester for Google. I got to play with the new ChromeOS. It'* beyond badass.


I signed up to be a beta tester for Google.
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I've said it before I'll say it again, Google will take down Microsoft... eventually.
I disagree and just dont see it. I dislike MS as much as anyone but it runs 99% of whats out there. And nearly that much software. Goggle can make all the gazillions of $$$ it wants to, makes itz mark with Apps, it is not a giant worthy of going toe to toe with MS. It needs 3 things that just aint going to happen... A) An operating system, B) a global computer,manufacturing-retail-acceptance- distribution network, and C) in doing this have it work with existing MS systems-platforms-machines already in place.

The Feds have tried for 25 years to break what is in appearance a MS monopoly, but their efforts that mimic what they used to break apart ATT/Bell won't work. Intellectual property can't be divided or taken away via AnitTrust laws. And when you have this, AND the OS/Equipment market already handcuffed, "eventually" is a long road we can't even say for sure, or likely see in our lifetime. Apple fans walked this walk, nearly 30 years ago to the present, Linux right behind them. Have they made inroads. Not one.

Goggle Analytics for the Forums I'm in and my own websites tell the real story. Less than 5% share of the market Apple/Linux combined. Eventually?, That flag is a tattered one. Take Down? If anything I see "wise up" and and look for alliances. Apple is making theirs. MS as well. Google needs to wise up and see money can't buy everything. Sometimes you have to play nice. I look at them and see the same attitude and fault Standard Oil did. It grew and outpaced all but in the end smacked a growth wall. And the enemies they made and the realities they ignored turned it into "just another oil company"
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I've said it before I'll say it again, Google will take down Microsoft... eventually.

A student walked into class with a new laptop. He'* a beta tester for Google. I got to play with the new ChromeOS. It'* beyond badass.


I signed up to be a beta tester for Google.
Its badass indeed, but its targeted for a niche market and cannot and will not replace Windows.
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