that'* a big JK

or thier grandmother bought it for them


for the record, I hate coffee much less starbucks, I drive the bonnie (though we do have an Expedition), I tend to be the driver of a carpool though rare it happens, my phone is an '04 Motorola something (idk how it still works), no iPod and the last time I listened to my mp3 player (that definitely doesn't fit under my fingernail) was nearly 3 months ago on the drive down to florida

I fit the typical Apple owner stereotype.





















And proud of it!!!!!!

I drive 2 bonnevilles(one crashed so I dont know anymore)) dont drink coffee very often But I drive a jeep which gets about 12mpg if that`

Hardware wise, theres virtually no difference between a PC and a Mac anymore. The bulk of that vanished when Apple made the switch to Intel processors from their previous IBM/Motorola G-Series processors, which were vastly different. Those processors are still manufacturered, as they were just reduced versions of IBMs best server processors.

There are SOME hardware differences like the fact that Apples now use Extensible Firmware Interface rather than BIOS, which is a significant improvement. Most PC motherboards have EFI capability, but Vista does not support it (even tho it was supposed to). The PRIMARY difference between a Mac and PC is nwo software, and I have to say I agree with Vince on that point. OS X is considerably better than Windows, altho Vista is a definite improvement. OS X'* greatness comes from the fact that it is built upon BSD Unix though. Despite OS X'* perceived greatness, it does have alot of downfalls, such as hardware compatibility issues (webcams, etc), and a lack of software for certain things.

I have a 1.5ghz Powerbook that I love, but I wouldn't buy another Mac. Now that OS X is compatible with x86, I will simply be tri-booting my PC (which I already do). I run Windows XP Pro, Ubuntu Linux, and Mac OS X all on my PC. The best of all worlds. I also have VIsta on another machine, but rarely use it.

I've gotta chime in on this one.

Unless you're a graphics artist, need your things to be "pretty", or are simply pretentious, nobody "needs" a mac.

I'm an IT guy by day, and let me just say that there are several reasons mac users love macs.

1. They're "pretty, but you pay for it.
2. They're different than the norm - what is it, something like 5% of the desktop and notebook computers sold are macs...
3. They're pretty.
4. The "it'* more expensive, it must be better" mentality.
5. "I can look down my nose at PC owners, because they're cheap."
6. I'm a robot. All hail Steve Jobs.
7. They're pretty. And they match the ipod.

PC hardware can be, and frequently is, inferior to mac hardware. But to make a blanket statement that Dells are junk, is just comical. Imagine that the market were flooded with knock-off mac hardware, and that the pc to mac proliferation ratio was more 1:1, rather than 1:10. You'd see hardware issues with a quickness.

The fact is, nobody who'* from a low income household can or wants to afford a mac, which makes them get less market share, which makes them have less available software, which makes them less attractive to the average buyer.

Plus, nearly every workplace you walk into has PCs in place. Why? Because they're inexpensive. Nobody cares about the time spent installing some Windows Updates, or Service Pack whatever. You know and I know that time spent maintaining something is time wasted and time is money. Management rarely does. They look at machine cost, not Total Cost of Ownership.

Having said that, I've spent plenty of time working on Mac stuff.

The fact of the matter is, apple makes a great product. But, they charge too much and hamstring themselves into their little tiny pie slice of the market.

The thing is, I can go out and buy a $300 PC desktop and it'* JUST AS GOOD as that mac air thing for what 99% of the average computer buyer uses a computer for, and have $1500 left over. I'm sorry, that'* a little bit apples to oranges. A better example is a $450 notebook.

With my $450 notebook, I can

Install Ubuntu Linux which:
- is free
- would give me access to thousands of open source applications
- runs like a scalded dog
- is very robust
- is no harder to navigate than macos


Or, leave Windows on it, which is only a real tangible security and performance problem because of what people do with it. P2P, torrents, ****, etc. Stuff that'* too readily available on the PC format because, ta da....., there are way more PCs.

I like my money. I'll keep buying PCs. At least until some software package comes out in the hypothetical future that I can't live without. Of course, unless its overmarketed like the iPhone, i'll never hear about it.

Tell me I'm wrong...

VERY well said. You summed it up totally. I use Ubuntu and I love it. With CompizFusion it is 100 times prettier than Mac OS even thought about being, along with doing incredible effects. If its aesthetics you're looking for, run an OS with CompizFusion. Here'* a demo video, see for yourselves: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ImW0-MgR8I

I love you erslincoln...

You're my new best friend

Dude thats your problem. Being a IT guy.

Its fine and all, but Mac should have got out of the hardware business a decade ago.